Cabinet Office Documents about Cyril Smiths Honours

I have finally just received a letter of reply, which they call a review [2] and information [1] from my Freedom of Information request originally way back in April 2014 [3] . This was for information the Cabinet Office have on the application for honours for Cyril Smith.

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Some of the information I am pretty sure has been made available before. Without checking through the Cabinet Office site, and other sites I would guess it has not all been in the public domain before, but I am very willing to be corrected. There are 19 pages in all [1].  The hand written notes are of poor quality.

  1. Draft Letter from Lord Shackleton on behalf of Political Honours Scrutiny Committee (PHSC), to the Prime Minister 3 pages
  2. 1988 May 11 Letter from Mrs ME Hedley-Miller (Sec of PHSC) to Mr N Wicks 1 page
  3. 1988 May 11 Letter from ? in House of Lords to Margaret Thatcher MP 1 page
  4. 1979 April 28 Rochdale Alternative Press  1 page [better copies available via [4]]
  5. 1979 May 11 Private Eye 1 page
  6. Draft Minute from Mrs Hedley-Millar to PM’s PPS 1 page
  7. Hand written notes probably associated with 6. 3 pages
  8. 1988 April 28 Letter from Mrs Hedley-Millar to Sir Robin Butler with some hand written notes  3 pages
  9. Draft letter from Sir Robin Butler to Director of Public Prosecutions 2 pages
  10.  Hand written notes 3 pages probably associated with 9.

All available via [1]

It would seem that the Mail Online made a FOI request (non public), 3 days after my request. They had to take the request to the Commissioner, who stated the Cabinet Office should fulfill  the request and the Mail received their reply on March 6 2015 when they wrote this article [5]. The Mail of course never give the public the benefit of their FOI requests, they cherry pick the information, spin to the far right agenda of the moment and write their story.  Now you can check the source material [1].

The Mirror [9], Guardian [6] , Manchester Evening News [7] and Independent [8] all followed with articles based on that written in the Mail, but presumably with no access to the source material.

The cabinet office say that I was sent the documents on 6th March 2015, the same day as the Mail.  However the WhatDoTheyKnow website had shut the request down (as they routinely do to prevent spam), as it had been over 11 months since the question was asked. The Cabinet Office would have received an automatic response and asked to contact the site if they wanted the question opened up. The Cabinet Office obviously chose not to – whether this was because they knew I would publish the source documents and then other newspapers could have gone with a different slant on the story is of course a possibility.

It was only when I wrote again, just recently that they have finally sent the documents and they are now in the public domain.

There is some useful information sources in the letter [2] about various vetting procedures

“information about the checks the government carries out on prospective honours candidates is available at www.gov.uk/government/publications/honourssystem-
checks-on-candidates. Candidates are also checked against the lists of donations
maintained and made public by the Electoral Commission.
In respect of your 4th question,(other vetting of other jobs etc) I refer you to the Prime Minister’s statement of 27 July 2010 on national security vetting (www.publications.parliament.uk).”

Whoever of course vets these child abusers are either incompetent, corrupt or misled by people who are incompetent or corrupt.

I have not studied any of the documents yet and would welcome any analysis from others.

Please note that victims of abuse may be triggered by reading this information. The Sanctuary for the Abused [A] has advice on how to prevent triggers.  National Association for People Abused in Childhood [B] has a freephone helpline and has links to local support groups. Other useful sites are One in Four [C]  and Havoca [D]. Useful post on Triggers [E]  from SurvivorsJustice [F] blog. Jim Hoppers pages on Mindfulness [G]  and Meditation [H] may be useful.

Links

[1] Information released on Cyril Smith https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/208565/response/722473/attach/3/CO%20DC00%20PRN01%200036%20001.pdf

[2] 2015 “March” Letter of Reply and “Review” https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/208565/response/722473/attach/4/FoI%20319454%20reply.pdf

[3] 2014 Apr 25 FOI Request re Cyril Smith Honours and Savile Honours https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/vetting_for_honours_awards#outgoing-489857

[4] 1979 May Rochdale Alternative Press Cathy Fox Blog https://cathyfox.wordpress.com/2014/05/14/rochdale-alternative-press-on-cyril-smith-78-may-1979/

[5] 2015 Mar 7  Daily Mail  Cabinet office in child abuse cover-up: MoS beats attempt by No10 to gag VIP file that shows Thatcher knew about paedophile MP Cyril Smith http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2984529/Cabinet-office-child-abuse-cover-MoS-beats-attempt-No10-gag-VIP-file-shows-Thatcher-knew-paedophile-MP-Cyril-Smith.html

[6] 2015 Mar 8 Guardian Cyril Smith abuse allegations: Cabinet Office denies cover-up http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/08/cyril-smith-cabinet-office-denies-cover-up

[7] 2015 Mar 8 Manchester Evening News Cyril Smith: Cabinet Office accused of ‘cover-up’ over Margaret Thatcher’s knowledge of MP’s alleged abuse http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/cyril-smith-cabinet-office-accused-8795701

[8] 2015 Mar 8 Independent Cyril Smith: Cabinet Office denies cover-up over files showing Margaret Thatcher knew of sex abuse claims against late MP http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/cyril-smith-cabinet-office-denies-cover-up-over-files-showing-margaret-thatcher-knew-about-sex-abuse-10093829.html

[9] 2015 Mar 7 Mirror Margaret Thatcher ‘knew of Cyril Smith abuse and Cabinet Office covered up information’ http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/margaret-thatcher-knew-cyril-smith-5292476

[A] Sanctuary for the Abused http://abusesanctuary.blogspot.co.uk/2006/07/for-survivors-coping-with-triggers-if.html

[B] NAPAC http://www.napac.org.uk/

[C] One in Four http://www.oneinfour.org.uk/

[D] Havoca http://www.havoca.org/HAVOCA_home.htm

[E] SurvivorsJustice Triggers post http://survivorsjustice.com/2014/02/26/triggers-what-are-they-and-how-do-we-work-through-them/

[F] SurvivorsJustice Blog http://survivorsjustice.com/

[G] Jim Hopper Mindfulness http://www.jimhopper.com/mindfulness/

[H] Jim Hopper Meditation http://www.jimhopper.com/mindfulness/#cultivate

This is all written in good faith but if there is anything that needs to be corrected please email cathyfox@bigfoot.com

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2 Responses to Cabinet Office Documents about Cyril Smiths Honours

  1. butlincat says:

    Reblogged this on VICTIMS OF THE STATE and commented:
    Awful how this monster got away with so much…

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