Knottfield Inquiry Isle of Man – Standing Committee Report 3 May 2018

Unfortunately I have not been able to keep up with events and proceedings in the Knottfield Child Sexual Abuse Inquiry in the Isle of Man. However I have been told by inquiry clerk that:

In December 2017 the Chairman announced that Part 1 of the inquiry (historic reports) was suspended.

In February 2018 an oral hearing was held in relation to Part 2 (current procedures)

In March 2018 another oral hearing was held in relation to Part 2 (current procedures)

Also in March 2018 the suspension of Part 1 was lifted. The Chairman explained this in a statement in April 2018. (and scroll down to line 2640)

On 3 May 2018 an oral hearing was held in relation to Part 1 (historic reports). The audio for this hearing is available. The Hansard is currently available for the first two witnesses, while the third is in preparation and will be uploaded in the next few days all being well.

Further oral hearings are planned for Friday 18 May and Monday 21 May at which the Chief Constable and the Attorney General will appear.

Some documents are or will  be published here (and choose “Child abuse”)

I have copied below the transcript of the 3 May oral hearing in word format so that it can be more easily read on the blog, but due to time constraints will save my analysis for later. However Adrian Derbyshire writes about the Betrayal of Knottfield’s children in the IOM Today.  [1]

Residents of a former children’s home at the centre of historical sex abuse allegations say victims have been ignored.

They bravely agreed to give evidence in public to the Tynwald scrutiny committee which is investigating claims of child abuse at the former Knottfield home in Douglas, which closed in 1983.

One said they were giving evidence on behalf of two friends, fellow former Knottfield residents, who had taken their own lives. One of those took their own life since the inquiry began.

Last month it was announced that the director of prosecutions has decided that no further action be taken, apparently due to the age and health of the suspect, who is now in his 80s.

That’s a decision which has incensed former residents who say they were abused at Knottfield.

For more of this article from Adrian Derbyshire please go to this link [1]

The Knottfield children’s home which closed in 1983. Image: Manx National Heritage


My previous posts on the Isle of Man Child Abuse –

2015 May 25 Cathy Fox Blog Child Sexual Abuse in the Isle of Man [3]

2015 May 25  Cathy Fox Blog 10 Steps on How to Research Child Sexual Abuse in your area – A Rough Guide Uses IOM as an example [5] 

2016 Feb 15 Cathy Fox Blog IOM Child Sexual Abuse Update Feb 2016 [4] 

2016 Feb 16 Cathy Fox Blog  Isle of Man: Counselling for Victims / Survivors [2]

2017 Aug 3 Cathy Fox Blog Isle of Man Knottfield Child Sexual Abuse Investigation Aug 2017 [8]

2017 Aug 11 cathy fox blog Isle of Man – Paedophile Paradise for downloading child abuse pictures [7] 

2017 Oct 13 cathy fox blog Submissions to the Investigation into Knottfield Childrens Home, Isle of Man [6] 











Historical Child Abuse


Douglas, Thursday, 3rd May 2018

PP2018/0082 SAPRC-HCA, No. 1/2017-18

All published Official Reports can be found on the Tynwald website:

Published by the Office of the Clerk of Tynwald, Legislative Buildings,
Finch Road, Douglas, Isle of Man, IM1 3PW. © High Court of Tynwald, 2018


Members Present:

Chairman: Mr D C Cretney MLC
Ms J M Edge MHK


Mr J D C King


Procedural 3

EVIDENCE OF Mrs Christine Urquhart 3

The next witness was called at 10.40 a.m. 11

EVIDENCE OF Mr John Guest 12

The next witness was called at 11.14 a.m. 20

EVIDENCE OF Mrs Kerry Sharpe MLC 21

The Committee sat in private at 12.21 p.m. 34

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Standing Committee of Tynwald on

Social Affairs Policy Review

Historical Child Abuse

The Committee sat in public at 10 a.m.
in the Legislative Council Chamber,
Legislative Buildings, Douglas

[MR CRETNEY in the Chair]


The Chairman (Mr Cretney): Welcome to this public meeting of the Social Affairs Policy Review Committee, which is a Standing Committee of Tynwald. I am David Cretney MLC and I chair this Committee. With me is Julie Edge MHK. The third member of this Committee is Mr Martyn Perkins MHK. He is not taking part in this inquiry, for reasons which I explained to

5 Tynwald in December 2017.

If we could all ensure that our mobile phones are off or on silent so that we do not have any

interruptions. For the purposes of Hansard I will be ensuring that we do not have two people

speaking at once.

The Social Affairs Policy Review Committee is one of the four Standing Committees of

10 Tynwald Court which scrutinise different areas of Government. We have three Departments to
cover: the Department of Home Affairs, the Department of Education, Sport and Culture and the Department of Health and Social Care.

It was resolved on 18th July 2017: ‘That Tynwald notes with concern reports of historical child abuse at the former Knottfield Children’s Home, which closed in 1983, and refers the

15 matter to the Social Affairs Policy Review Committee to report by December 2017; and further
instructs the Committee to investigate the adequacy of current procedures to protect from abuse children in care (looked after children) in the Isle of Man and to report in March 2018.’ Shortly after Tynwald made that resolution last July we invited people to come forward if they wanted to comment on these matters. As a result of that invitation we had face-to-face

20 meetings in private with 13 former residents of Knottfield and one former staff member. These
meetings took place in September and October.

On 30th November this part of the inquiry was suspended pending a criminal investigation. On 22nd March 2018 the criminal investigation was completed and this part of the inquiry was resumed.

25 Today we are sitting in public for the first time for this first part of the inquiry. I am very
grateful to the two individuals we are about to hear from for being willing to come and talk to us in this public forum: you are welcome.


Mrs Christine Urquhart

Q1. The Chairman: For the record, Christine, would you state your full name. And what would you like to say to us today, please?

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30 Mrs Urquhart: My name is Christine Urquhart and I was a resident of Knottfield Children’s

Home between 1978 and 1982. I am here today to speak on behalf of some of the victims.

First of all, I need to say thank you. I feel I need to thank the Isle of Man Government for creating this Committee and opening this review and finally acknowledging the victims of Knottfield Children’s Home publicly. With this review taking place, some of the victims feel that

35 they were finally being heard, that they were receiving validation for the atrocities that
happened to them within those walls of 96 Woodbourne Road, commonly known as Knottfield Children’s Home, at the hands of those who were supposed to be caring for them whilst they were already vulnerable children. The victims believed that finally the system was believing in them.

40 As you are aware, a majority of the victims have told their story many times to the authorities
around them. With this, each time the horrors came back to haunt them, the strength they were able to muster to come forward dissipated … was the reality of our legal system into their worlds. The disenchantment they felt whilst the system as a whole let them down only exasperated their lack of self-worth again. It established a pattern of not being able to believe in

45 a system that was supposed to be there to protect them – then when they were children and
now as recovering, trying to recover – and so enable them to seek the justice they so rightly deserved. And like I said, this disenchantment is now happening again.

Unfortunately, some of these victims are no longer with us to see this day, through either death of natural causes or otherwise, so please be mindful that you are doing this for them also,

50 and their families, and they must be acknowledged.

I was thankful but curious when this Review Committee was formed: initially thankful that the politicians were finally sitting up and listening and would hopefully allow the victims of Knottfield justice and eventually closure. However, I was hugely aware and concerned that the process was ill thought out and there was no care plan put in place for these victims.

55 When the Isle of Man Constabulary made a public statement requesting that the victims
come forward with their stories and statements I completely and absolutely understood the implications of that for many of them. It needs to be understood that when a victim recalls a traumatic event they unwittingly re-live that occurrence. This can continue through visions, feelings and nightmares for a long time after the initial talk with the Police or yourselves, the

60 Committee. So it was wholly disheartening that there was no care plan put in place at this point
in time, and due to this many victims suffered again and are still suffering now at the hands of the people, yet again, who are supposed to be there to protect them. I absolutely denounce this public call-out for victims to come forward, for I have experienced it myself. However, the Isle of Man Constabulary did put a care plan of sorts in place. Unfortunately, those who accessed this

65 service did not find it helpful at all.

So I hope this is a lesson learnt for the Police in how to deal with future victims of abuse and historical crimes. I dearly hope that with your new-learned experience of such crimes and the victims involved, which took place here on the Island, you now understand and acknowledge the absolute necessity for more investment in our over-capacity Mental Health Services. With this

70 review now taking place it absolutely gives you and our Government the opportunity to show
the people of the Isle of Man that you are supporting them. You are not only doing this review for the victims of Knottfield, but also for their families, as I have previously stated, their friends, the authorities who could not or would not act and the general public who are aware of all these atrocities. Take this time to prove to the Isle of Man’s citizens, but more importantly to these

75 victims, that you are finally on their side, that you are a people’s Government who were voted
into these seats by the people and must stand for these people.

Last month the victims were informed that yet again there would be no prosecution of the man who inflicted so many horrors and abhorrent behaviours upon them when they were only children. To be honest, we kind of expected it as it has become the norm on the Island. The

80 system is perceived to ignore the victim and protect the perpetrator, so we all expected the
usual gumph: ‘not enough evidence, not enough witnesses, it is too expensive to ensure a

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conviction so we are not going to bother’. We have all heard these excuses many times. What we did not expect was the reason behind why this man has not even been arrested, never mind prosecuted, the reason being because he is too old and too ill. Everyone knew his age and his

85 state of health before this review started. They all knew before the investigation took
precedence over the review. So please tell me why you have put all these people through this again for nothing.

Who was the person that decided to abuse these people again? This is a form of torture and degradation which has caused immense harm to these people again. The reasoning behind this

90 decision not to prosecute the man I have heard before, regarding another historical crime that
was inflicted on myself – which is of course ridiculous. The age and well-being of a criminal are truly not ours or your responsibility. The responsibility here is to the children who were entrusted into
your care, the Isle of Man Government, the Department of Education as it was called at the time. It was your Department that paid and entrusted this man to care for the

95 vulnerable children of this Island. Do you not feel disgusted by it or embarrassed? This monster
is about to get away with it again and it is all being done by your own Departments.

You were our parents. You owed us a duty of care, which you did not uphold; you are still not upholding it. We were placed in Knottfield due to the negligence of our own parents and caregivers, some of whom were prosecuted by the Isle of Man courts. Why should you or this

100 man not be treated in the same way by the same courts for the same negligence, if not worse? I
need to ask is there a double standard here, because it feels like there is.

The Attorney General and the Police have more than enough evidence and more than enough witnesses to enable a prosecution, so why is this man still being protected? The whole thing – the review, the investigation – now feels like it has purely been a fishing exercise, an

105 opportunity for the Government to find out exactly what the victims know so they can collate
and compose what feels like yet another cover-up. I feel that this is all in the fear that the press are coming to expose the crimes that have been committed against the children on the Isle of Man, with no fear of prosecution for the perpetrators. It feels like you were in fear of a Jersey-like scandal happening here on the Island – and you should be, rightly so, to be fair.

110 I have been looking into how the victims have been treated during this process and I have
found that their rights and personal liberties may actually have been violated by the Police, and by the Government calling them to come forward again, by providing them with false hope that finally someone was going to do something to prosecute this man and protect them.

Please refer to the European Convention on Human Rights Act – which takes precedence

115 over legal and domestic legislation, I have to add. Article 3: the right not to be tortured or
treated in an inhumane or degrading way. And Article 8: the right to respect for your family and your private life. These people poured their hearts and minds open to you all, the Police included,
again. You may have only heard it for the first time, but police, teachers, social workers, everyone that was around these children and as they became adults, has heard these

120 stories again and again and again, and every time these people are tortured and it takes a long
time to heal from it all every time. Their everyday lives were changed, which has affected them and their families by the imposing of this process. It feels like the system has repeatedly raped and tortured these people emotionally and psychologically for a fact-finding exercise, and that is criminal.

125 As I stated previously, when a person reveals abuses that have taken place against them they
unwittingly re-live those moments in time, the fear, the shame and the pain. You were aware of this. You were made aware of this when this process started. You were made aware that these people, some here today, would become that six-year-old child again who was beaten and raped for the pleasure of the abusers around him. You were made aware that the reason the 12-year-

130 old boy had turned to a life of crime was so he could escape the abuses that were happening to
him. No one would listen and no one would act for them. These people, while reliving their stories, become those children again. After the interviews are finished with either yourselves or

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the Police, or whoever else wants to get inside their heads, they are left as that child and this can take months, years, to overcome.

135 They told their stories again because they believed that finally someone was going to say, ‘I

believe you.’ Do you believe these victims? Do you believe what happened to them?

What are you going to do to ensure they receive the validation they require after suffering

for so long?

Do you believe that there has been a cover-up to protect those involved, who were aware

140 and decided to protect themselves and the reputation of the Island?

If your answer to any of these questions is yes, then a prosecution must be made. This man

must be prosecuted. His health and well-being is down to the sentencing judge to decide, not

you and not I.

Just recently Bill Cosby, aged 80 years and in ill health, was successfully prosecuted for

145 historical sex crimes. Max Clifford was in his 70s. Rolf Harris was in his 70s. Dave Lee Travis in his
60s. And closer to home, Derek Cooper of Hillberry Green is 77 years old and has recently been convicted of historical crimes. Every one of them claimed ill health. They failed. They could not evade the justice they so rightly deserved. Quite frankly, by not prosecuting this man and his staff in question you are making a laughing stock of us as victims and of the Isle of Man, its

150 judicial system and its policies and procedures in a very public forum.

Another case that has recently been made public is from a brave man called Gerry Underwood. He reported historical sex crimes against him to the Isle of Man Constabulary five years ago and still nothing has been done to help him. The Isle of Man Constabulary claim that they have changed their systems and procedures, which they have, but all still leads to the same

155 outcome and excuses from the Police and the Attorney General’s office. We all know this
because we have all lived it many times. Nothing has changed at all. Please be part of that change now. Implement safeguards for the victims, not the perpetrators.

Over the past year alone, from 1st January 2017 to 1st January 2018, a total of 86 crimes were reported to the Police on the Island. Of these, 33 were historical, of which 18 were inflicted

160 upon children – persons as they were children. Only five of these 18 – and this is from when I
received the information in March, I must add – were operational. Five. There are five that are classed as cleared, completed, but I do not know what that means. I have not had any clarification as to what that means. I would like to know.

Child sex crime as a whole on the Island is still not being taken seriously. I know this

165 personally because I have experienced the system myself and the abuser is still walking the
streets today, nearly four years after the crimes were first reported from four children. Not enough evidence. The witnesses are too young. The same song sung by the Police to the Attorney General’s office
again. The list of excuses goes on whilst another child predator is within our midst who will never see the inside of a courtroom.

170 So, questions for the Attorney General. What evidence do you exactly require? Broken
bones? Bruises? Photographic evidence? Scars? Well, for these people, broken bones have healed, the bruises have cleared and all the physical evidence has disappeared along with the children’s personal files from Knottfield – which is another question I must raise with you later. But scars they have plenty of: the mental scars that have ripped open again during this process;

175 the scars that create the nightmares to return and question their ability to lead normal lives,
that make them question their self-worth and destroy their self-esteem. These scars are always there, destroying these people from the inside out because of what happened to them and because not one person of authority has stood up and said, ‘I believe you and I will have your back.’

180 These people need validation, not more persecution. They need someone from the
establishment that they have paid into their whole lives to stand up and say, ‘I believe you and we are sorry.’ Without this, what is the point in any of this? What is your explanation as to why this review is actually taking place? What outcome are you hoping for from all of this? Is anyone actually thinking or caring about these victims at all? Because it does not feel like it.

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185 These victims are parents and grandparents now. They are also struggling with their ill health, even more so throughout this process. Who is looking out for them? Who is protecting them? You were supposed to be protecting them when they were children; you are supposed to be protecting them now. That is your job: to protect the people of the Island who have suffered crimes against them. Give them the validation, tell them you believe them and apologise publicly

190 for it taking so long to get to this point. I am so sorry that some of them cannot be with us today. I have some questions for you. I am not done yet, sorry; I am not done yet.

The Chairman: No, that is fine. Take as long as you want.

195 Mrs Urquhart: Are you able to answer these directly now, or …?

  1. The Chairman: Let’s progress with the questions orally.

Mrs Urquhart: Okay. Where is the medical statement stating the perpetrator is too old and

200 unfit to be prosecuted?

  1. The Chairman: We are yet to meet with the Attorney General and that will be amongst the things we will be asking.

205 Mrs Urquhart: So you have not even seen the statement, even though it is not public?

  1. The Chairman: The Attorney General is going to come into this Committee – Mrs Urquhart: On the 21st.


The Chairman: Yes.

Mrs Urquhart: Yes, I will be here. Okay, so he has that. Will it be made public, because the whole thing is a public forum? Obviously there is data protection, I understand that, but surely

215 there must be something for the victims to see the reasoning behind why he will not be prosecuted. Will there be something made public?

  1. The Chairman: I cannot answer for the Attorney General. I hope so.

220 Mrs Urquhart: In this case the perpetrator is too old and too ill. In other cases the witnesses were deemed too young. So how do we protect the children of our Island? Yet again another question I feel you cannot answer. The Attorney General will need to answer that, I would presume. I have it put here ‘Please advise’, and he is not here – I was expecting him to be here.

Does the Attorney General have evidential and public interest tests? And if he does, where

225 are they and will we see them?

  1. The Chairman: Amongst the questions we were going to ask you when you had finished your statement is what you would like us to ask the Attorney General, so this is very helpful.

230 Mrs Urquhart: Public interest tests.

  1. The Chairman: Please put it on record.

Mrs Urquhart: Can the Attorney General’s decision be reviewed or appealed? If so, by

235 whom? How do we go about that? Anything?

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  1. The Chairman: No. I am sorry, I do not know the answer to that.

Mrs Urquhart: Okay, it’s fine. I will be back on the 21st, don’t worry.

240 Has the Attorney General decided not to prosecute against or with the opinion of the Isle of
Man Constabulary? Yet again that is a question for him.

  1. The Chairman: Well, no, the answer there is that the Isle of Man Constabulary, after the new witness came forward and was interviewed, submitted to the Attorney General that they

245 wished to have a prosecution. The Attorney General’s office … What is the officer called? There
is an officer in the Attorney General’s who makes these decisions and it was his decision, not the Police’s.

Mrs Urquhart: Okay. I find it all ludicrous. You said yourself you have had 13 former residents

250 of Knottfield sat in front of you yourself. That is a lot of witnesses; that is a lot of evidence. I do
not understand the Attorney General’s reasoning behind any of this, to be fair.

Were there ever any checks made on this couple in Manchester before they were allowed to run a children’s home? Do you have any evidence of that?

255 Q10. The Chairman: I do not believe we have had any evidence of that. Ms Edge: It is something we can ask, isn’t it?

The Clerk: Well, no, I do not think the Committee has any information on that at the 260 moment.

The Chairman: But again we can certainly make inquiries about any of the points you are raising and we are very happy to do so.

265 Mrs Urquhart: Okay. Where are all the Knottfield children’s files? We have heard this

question many times and not one person in authority, I feel, even believes they existed; but we, as residents, know they existed.

These files held personal information on the children in the care of the home, such as personal correspondence, their health, welfare and behaviours, their pocket money accounts,

270 post office accounts, post office books. They held an awful lot of information. They had an awful
lot of evidence: doctors’ appointments, health checks, everything that would have corresponded with the abuses that were taking place against the children at the time. Do you not find it ludicrous that they are missing?

275 The Chairman: Yes.

Mrs Urquhart: Thank you. Is anybody looking for them?

Q11. The Chairman: I think we are receiving evidence after John Guest … The next person

280 after him has been conducting, for a considerable time, at the request of the Isle of Man
Children’s Centre previous management … and I think that she may have information on that.

Mrs Urquhart: Okay. Sexual crime on the Island per capita is high in comparison to the UK. In only the first six months of 2017, 42 sex crimes had been reported to the Police, five of which

285 were deemed non-criminal offences, which left 37 crimes to deal with – which is quite possibly
37 victims with families. Some crimes may be different but inflicted on the same person, you have to understand that, so it is only an approximation.

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To back up Lisa Taylor and Sadie Sanders, I must absolutely reiterate that the punishment must fit the crime and those punishments must be used as a deterrent to try and curb this

290 behaviour and to protect our children. Only recently, a 19-year-old boy went to jail for only six
years after savagely raping a 10-year-old child. That young boy will carry the scars of that event for the rest of his life, whereas his rapist will be out walking our streets within three or four years. It does not feel like it fits. A review needs to take place to look into sex crime as a whole on this Island. I feel this review is only the tip of the iceberg and we cannot stop here. It has to

295 continue.

Investment in mental health can itself provide further investment into the Health Service as a whole. To be as brief as I can, failing mental health is one of the most highly contributing factors to failing physical health. By making a substantial investment into the Mental Health Service you will be saving in so many other areas, so this is a request for you to consider and put forward to

300 Government. I understand Manannan Court is still quite new and quite fresh and a lot of
investment was made in that building, but we need the staff to fill the building and to help the people of the Isle of Man. That is where you are lacking. It is a lovely, good-looking building, but you have not got the staff. It is completely overcapacity. That is where the investment needs to be.

305 Finally – nearly – as much as it has been disheartening that it has taken so long for the victims
of Knottfield Children’s Home to be heard, it must be acknowledged that thankfully they are being heard now. So many Departments across Government have listened to the victims’ stories over the years with no one acting on what they were being told. This spans back to the 1960s, the 1970s, the 1980s and beyond, when they were still children.

310 I request that the Isle of Man Government make a full and public apology to the victims and
their families for the inaction and ignorance over the years, to show that you understand and have learnt from the mistakes that were made and to reassure the public that the same attitude and pattern of behaviour will be abolished and will never happen across Departments in Government again; that those who were plainly ignorant and arrogant towards the victims are

315 made accountable for their mistakes. This, I feel, needs to be a public apology to state that
finally you believe them and that finally you are sorry.

Just a little quote from Nelson Mandela that I would like to add because I feel it is appropriate:

There can be no keener revelation of a society’s soul than the way in which it treats its children.

Bear that in mind.

320 Thank you.

Q12. The Chairman: Thank you, Christine.

Can I just, before we start answering any questions, answer a couple of the points you made


325 The Isle of Man parliament, Tynwald, rather than the Government, decided by majority that
the right thing to do was to undertake this inquiry, and I agree and I voted for that. We did not require outside forces to come in and shine a light on us, like Jersey did.

I believe the young people, who are now older people, who have been to speak to us. I believe them. I believe their story. (Mrs Urquhart: Thank you.) But we have to go through this

330 process and we have to make a report to Tynwald. We will be making recommendations to
Tynwald and it will be for Tynwald to decide whether they accept what we have to say after we have met everybody we need to meet.

So, we have got a few questions, if you are … (Mrs Urquhart: Yes.) That is fine, yes.

Do you want to go first?

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335 Q13. Ms Edge: Obviously we will be seeing the Chief Constable as well as the AG in a couple

of weeks’ time. Have you got any questions you would specifically like us to ask the Chief Constable?

Mrs Urquhart: In this forum? The Isle of Man Constabulary have been very public in saying

340 that they have changed their policies and procedures in the way that they treat victims of
historical crime and sex crime as a whole. What I have found over the past four years is that those procedures have changed and they are willing to listen to you more, but it is the final outcomes that do not change – and I have said this already.

I have to applaud the two officers who took charge of this investigation. I will not name them

345 personally, but they know who they are. Their patience and understanding I found, personally,
was hugely appreciated; it was a hard job that they took on. But the Isle of Man Constabulary as a whole … I am not sure I can say in this forum, to be fair.

Q14. The Chairman: Please do not worry about what you say.


Mrs Urquhart: I do not want to swear.

  1. The Chairman: I think it is best that people are as honest as possible in this. Would you like to make any comment about the Government Mental Health Services and

355 their involvement in any of this?

Mrs Urquhart: Yes. The Police, after advice – or me shouting very publicly on social media – contacted the Mental Health Services and provided the victims of Knottfield with a phone number and a fast track into the Mental Health Services. I am aware of at least one or two

360 people who accessed those services and were basically told that they could not be helped because they were too scared to open that avenue, stating that it was detrimental to the victim. So what was the point, to be fair?

  1. Ms Edge: That was after the recent interviews and that with the Police? 365

Mrs Urquhart: Yes.

  1. Ms Edge: They did not give you good access to their services?

370 Mrs Urquhart: Oh, they got access; they did not get good service.

  1. Ms Edge: And what else do you think could help? Is there anything that you could …?

Mrs Urquhart: The reason they did not get good service was because the Mental Health

375 Service is overcapacity and everybody I know is fully aware of that. For these people in particular I think an independent Mental Health Service needs to come to the Island, specifically for these people, to allow your own Mental Health Service to do the job that they already do, and that way they will not be shunted out the door, saying, ‘It’s too late, we can’t open that corridor in your mind; we haven’t got the time to fix you.’ Bring in an independent service to help these

380 people, so that the people you have already can do the job that they are under so much pressure to do. And hire more, invest in more staff – you desperately need more staff.

  1. The Chairman: Do you know, were the management of Knottfield under any supervision from outside? I know you would only be very young at the time, but do you think they were

385 under any supervision from outside?

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Mrs Urquhart: There was the committee of Knottfield.

Q20. The Chairman: The committee, that kind of thing. Do you want to talk about that a little

390 bit?

Mrs Urquhart: Well, it is the committee that dictate how any business or organisation runs, so yes they were dictated to. I believe the committee were aware of what was going on, if not part of it – sorry, I have to say. So yes, they were dictated to.

395 There was a lot of money that went missing that belonged to the children. Everything has
been covered up for a long time and the committee of Knottfield were behind that – it is not just down to the perpetrators – and I think it has all been covered up to save the reputation of the Island. Well, that is not happening now, is it?

400 Q21. The Chairman: Well, I think it is the reverse, isn’t it? By trying to cover things up you do

not (Mrs Urquhart: Exactly.) enhance the reputation of anyone.

Mrs Urquhart: I would really be interested to know who the committee members were. I cannot seem to find that information. Maybe somebody – maybe John – might have that, I do

405 not know, but I would really like to know who the committee members were and were party to
the ignorance and the arrogance of what happened.

Q22. The Chairman: Yes, well, I am sure Kerry Sharpe again will have information about that.

410 Q23. Ms Edge: Can I just ask … Obviously everybody has concerns if those records cannot be

found, and clearly that is the belief. When anybody has accessed the medical service or any other medical service – their GP – on the Island, there are no records with their GP practice at all?

415 Mrs Urquhart: My own personal medical health record only goes back to 1992. Everything

before it is gone.

Q24. Ms Edge: And you are with the same general practice, the same GP? Yes. Okay. Thank you.


  1. The Chairman: The questions we were going to ask were … What do you think Tynwald should do? I think you have made it absolutely clear what you think –

Mrs Urquhart: They need to apologise.


  1. The Chairman: – Tynwald should do. Yes. Anything else you would like to say?

Mrs Urquhart: No, I think I have covered everything that I needed to say.

430 Q27. The Chairman: You have covered everything very well. I know that it will be quite difficult for you, to say the least, to come here to do this in public, but we want to thank you very much as a Committee for being prepared to do so, for being so open and honest and frank. We will see this through.

435 Mrs Urquhart: Thank you for listening to me. Thank you.

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Mr John Guest

Q28. The Chairman: We will now have Mr Guest, please.

John, for the record would you tell us your name and then would you like to make any

statement, please.


Mr Guest: My name is John Guest and I was a victim of physical, mental and sexual abuse at

the Isle of Man Children’s Home in the 1960s and 1970s.

I would like to thank the previous speaker, who I do not know. She made some good

technical points but, on the point where she said she is speaking for the victims, she is not

445 speaking for me personally because I do not know who she is, so I just make that point clear.

I would like to talk and I have my picture of my mother with me today.

I would just like to say that I appreciated the points that the previous speaker made and a lot

of the technical points that she made. I am very appreciative of what she said, but my talk is a

more personal talk and not so technical, so I hope it comes across clearly and understandable to

450 the people here today.

I would like to open my address to this Committee here today by remembering and paying my personal respects to the memory of my two good friends and fellow victims of the physical, mental and sexual abuse committed against us in the Isle of Man Children’s Home whilst under the guardianship and care of the Isle of Man Government in the 1960s and 1970s: Chris Glover

455 and Ian Strange.

Chris took his own life in December 2017, I and others believe as a direct result of the trauma inflicted on him as a vulnerable child in the care of the Isle of Man Government and more recently by the unprofessional actions and insensitive manner in which the Isle of Man Police Force conducted their inquiries in 2015. Chris was my lifelong friend. He was a family man, loved

460 and respected by all his many friends and ex-work colleagues, as the packed-to-capacity church at Andreas testified on the day of his funeral. It is sad that some of the people here were not there to witness that.

Ian Strange, I was informed by the Isle of Man Police, had also taken his own life. I last met Ian in Douglas some time ago and when we sat and talked he was still visibly traumatised by the

465 abuse he was subjected to whilst in the care of the Manx Government and the treatment he received from the Police. I have enquired on several occasions for details on Ian’s resting place and on his passing but I am still awaiting that information from the Police.

I would like at this time just to ask the people here today and the Committee to give me the respect of a short silence in their memory, if that is okay.

A silence was observed.

470 Mr Guest: Thank you.

I would like to start by thanking Mr Baker for bringing motion 35, the Knottfield Children’s

Home, before Tynwald Court. I would like to thank Dr Allinson for seconding the motion and also

Mr Henderson for his contribution to support the motion.

At the risk of seeming ungrateful, I hope to say this is not a waste of all our time. The reason I

475 said this, ladies and gentlemen, is because apparently once this Committee has completed their hearing and made their report, incredibly the select committee’s findings are to be submitted to the Council of Ministers for written response – people who have already shown publicly they do not really care. Your findings are to be handed over to the Council of Ministers, including Mr Quayle, Mr Thomas, Mr Malarkey, Mr Peake and others who en masse voted for Mrs

480 Beecroft’s amendment, which would have stopped motion 35, the Knottfield Children’s Home, being investigated by the select committee. If this is the case, we all have to ask ourselves why are we bothering with this hearing today.

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The reason I am here today is to represent my two dead friends, Chris and Ian, and other individuals who do not have the strength to dredge this all up in public – and frankly, it is not

485 easy for me. Lest anyone misunderstand, despite this horrendous experience, I have a loving wife, a fine son and a daughter and I strive to be successful in my work. I chose to get on with my life and tried to put the shame of my mistreatment behind me. Many of the other victims have not been so fortunate. Also, the actions of some of the politicians and of the Isle of Man Police Force compelled me to act.

490 To Mrs Beecroft, Mr Malarkey, Mr Quayle, Mr Thomas and others who voted in favour of the amendment – in the words of Mr Baker, trying to sweep this issue away – I say bow your heads in shame. Your oath of office is to serve and protect and I say to you all you have let me down, let my two dead friends down and also some of the other innocent victims that are here today, not forgetting all those who were subject to this horrific treatment, and I feel you have let the

495 Island down.

I see Mrs Beecroft mentioned in Tynwald the Jersey Care Inquiry, which investigated the historical child abuse on their Island. It was an independent inquiry, free of government and the Police, giving the victims of child abuse in their care system a totally unbiased and impartial avenue to give their evidence. The Jersey Care Inquiry was instigated after their chief minister in

500 2010 made a full formal apology to all those who had suffered in the Jersey care system, acknowledging their failings towards those vulnerable children in a serious way. He stated that the inquiry was to be transparent and affording the fair treatment of victims and witnesses to be a priority. In a subsection headed ‘systemic failings’ it questioned (1) a failure to ensure that an institution provides proper care, (2) a failure to take all proper steps to prevent, detect and

505 disclose abuse, and (3) a failure to take appropriate steps to ensure the investigation and prosecution of criminal offences involving abuse. I say to Mrs Beecroft, Mr Malarkey, Mr Quayle, Mr Thomas and others: read the Jersey Care Inquiry findings in full, then act in an honourable way.

I am here today to speak out for the victims of physical, mental and sexual abuse inflicted on

510 us whilst in the care and protection of the Isle of Man Government in the 1960s and 1970s. We were taken from our homes and placed into the care of the Isle of Man Government, into a place void of compassion, encouragement and guidance in any way. This unregulated children’s home was funded by the Isle of Man Government. Never at any time in all the years I was in care was I visited or spoken to by a social worker. We were never encouraged to study or helped in

515 any way to prepare us for moving into society. We were not taught any morals, respect or compassion for others. So, on leaving the care system without training or an education, many fell into petty criminality to survive. We were angry, unguided teenagers, trying to find our place in society.

I am not here today to talk about my personal experiences and the physical, mental and

520 sexual abuse inflicted on me whilst under the care of the Isle of Man Government; I have spoken to this Committee to some extent on this matter in private. Also, the evidence I gave to the Police helped to convict the paedophile who ran the children’s home in Knottfield after a court case in 1993.

I would like to say that victims have asked for and have been denied access to funded legal

525 counsel to assist in asking questions and putting evidence forward, a privilege enjoyed by this Committee and by the Police. I ask the Government again, here in public, to give us this assistance.

I, like many of the people who came through the care system at Knottfield in the 1960s and 1970s, have no respect for the Isle of Man Police Service and their office. Their unprofessional

530 attitude and actions towards the innocent victims of Knottfield and the actions of the paedophile who ran the home need to be, in my mind, independently investigated. I personally made several complaints to the Isle of Man Police in regard to their handling of the case in 2015 and 2016 and their treatment of the victims, leaving one suicidal and others unable to work. Their action in one instance after taking evidence was to text a visibly shaken and unstable

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535 victim, offering a contact number for victim support services. After several visits to Police Headquarters and complaints and inquiries into their procedures and actions, I was awarded the title ‘dissatisfied customer’ – the reference number is DC18/15-16 and it was signed by Inspector Will Campbell of the professional standards department, dated 14th December 2015 – and in the eyes of the Isle of Man Police I am a dissatisfied customer; I thank them for that title.

540 In 2015 the Isle of Man Police again opened an investigation into Knottfield and child abuse, and after two years of investigation their intrusive and uncompassionate approach to victims concluded with the suicide of my good friend.

The Chairman: It’s all right, take your time.


Mr Guest: Okay … concluded with the suicide of my good friend and fellow victim,

Chris Glover, and other victims feeling let down and unsupported by the Isle of Man Police


With new evidence being provided and one claim of sexual abuse by another member of staff

550 on a vulnerable victim being made, we believe the case has been closed with no further actions or prosecutions. We the victims, through legal counsel, would like to question the content of the police file sent the Attorney General which led to this decision.

The Chief Constable, Gary Roberts, was in 1993 an investigating DC into the child abuse at Knottfield which led to the conviction of the paedophile who ran the home. We feel his report

555 submitted to the select committee has inaccuracies and find some of his comments offensive when he states that many of the young people who spent time in Knottfield, including Ian Strange, had poor mental health problems, difficulty forming relationships, had a history of offending and alcoholic problems. We find this and other parts of his written submission to this Committee to be untrue, a defamation of the character of myself and others who lived and

560 survived the unregulated systemic abuse in the children’s home in the 1960s and 1970s. If, in 1979, Ian Strange – a scared, vulnerable and abused child who found the courage to complain about his mistreatment – had been listened to by the Police he would be alive today. The Police in 1979 took the word of a paedophile running Knottfield that Ian was a troublemaker and attention seeker. The Police walked away and left that child to his fate. The Chief Constable

565 stated in his written evidence to this Committee:

An opportunity to stop his offending arose in 1979, but not taken.

His words, given to you the Committee.

Also in his report the Chief Constable stated the lack of files connected to the case and that they had been destroyed before the police investigation in 1992 – his words in his statement. So how, on 30th August 2017, did the Isle of Man Police Force receive an anonymous call informing

570 them that staff at the Isle of Man Children’s Centre were destroying files related to the Knottfield investigation?

Leading me on to the Isle of Man Children’s Centre, I believe the Centre had commissioned a book relating to the children in care over the last 150 years on our Island. The Children’s Centre had claimed it had a history dating back over a hundred years, when in fact it was only formed in

575 1988. The victimised innocent residents of the Manx childcare system and Knottfield who grew up in their care in the 1960s and 1970s find it deeply offensive that someone could write this book without our knowledge or input. Without reading the book, I say shame on the Children’s Centre and those involved.

We would also like to ask the select committee to ask questions regarding the handing over

580 of the building and cash assets of the children to the Children’s Centre. That included the substantial building that was Knottfield. Allegedly the building is now up for sale. We ask: what was the agreement as to the use and ultimately the sale of this valuable asset?

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Mr Cretney, select committee, the Police and the people of the Island, I ask for recognition for what happened, justice for the innocent victims and hopefully closure. This dark chapter of

585 our Island’s social and criminal history must be recognised and documented and, where
appropriate, action taken. You owe it to a generation of vulnerable young children who, under the care of this Isle of Man Government, were sent to Knottfield in the 1960s and 1970s – that unregulated, inadequate, uncaring children’s home where a paedophile was free to ruin countless young lives. You owe it to us and this Island’s victims.

590 Again I would like to put on record my disgust and total disagreement with the procedure
where this Committee’s findings and evidence, on completion of its work, are sent to the Council of Ministers for their written response; the Council of Ministers who en masse voted for the amendment to motion 35, which would have silenced the innocent victims and dismissed Mr Baker’s motion. I await their written response and its contents with interest.

595 I call on this Committee, in giving their findings to Tynwald, to remember the innocent
victims, their treatment, and to admit that a travesty of justice was committed on vulnerable young children whilst under the care of the Manx Government. Again I ask for recognition for what happened, justice and closure.

That is my main evidence, but I would like to end on a personal note, if I can. I do not know …


The Chairman: Take your time.

Mr Guest: I do not know if I can read it, really. I would like somebody else to read it. Could you read it for me, or somebody?


The Chairman: Yes, Mr King will read out what John wants to say.

The Clerk: ‘I wish to end my evidence on a personal note. This picture I have with me today, and which I have taken to my closed meeting with this Committee, is of my mother,

610 Doreen Guest. In the mid-1960s, date unknown, the Manx Government, through one of its
Departments, decided to remove from her love and care me and my three brothers. She was placed some time later in secure care where, many years later, she died in her early 40s. She never saw her children again. I cannot imagine how she must have felt at this callous action. I think of her daily.’


Mr Guest: Thank you.

The Chairman: Thank you, Mr King.

620 Mr Guest: At the end now, I would just like to thank you for giving me this opportunity to talk

for the victims, living and departed.

  1. The Chairman: Okay, well, thank you very much, John. Again, very brave, very frank, and you have made your points very well.

625 I want to clarify the process. When this Committee reports, the report will be made public. It
will be laid before Tynwald to be debated at a subsequent sitting. What happens is the Council of Ministers have the opportunity to consider the report, along with all other Tynwald Members, and ultimately it will be Tynwald rather than the Council of Ministers –

630 Mr Guest: Yes, but the Council of Ministers will be giving a written response; the Council of

Ministers who en masse voted against motion 35. We would not have been sitting here today if that had been successful.

  1. The Chairman: I hope they have had time to reflect upon their decision.

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635 Mr Guest: Well, I hope so, yes; I do too.

  1. The Chairman: The other points … This Committee is a parliamentary Committee and as such is not Government; it is unbiased and impartial. As I said to Christine, we will make sure that we complete our work properly and report without fear or favour.

640 I want you to know that we do take everything that has been said to us very seriously and I share with you that one of the people, Chris, who spoke with Mr Baker and who subsequently has taken his own life, we owe it to him to make sure that we complete this process.

Mr Guest: And Ian as well.


  1. The Chairman: And Ian; we did not meet Ian.

If it is all right with you we will ask a few questions. We will be seeing the Chief Constable in a couple of weeks. You have made several points. Is there anything else you would like us to ask him, other than what you have said already?


Mr Guest: To ask the Chief Constable?

The Chairman: Yes, anything you think we should put to him, other than …? You have made a number of important points.


Mr Guest: I have actually had a meeting with the Chief Constable and I have put a lot of my

points I wished to make to him anyway.

I think the situation is that myself and fellow victims have a complaint and a grievance

against the Isle of Man and the Police, so how can they be impartial when we are complaining

660 against the Police and the Police then make the file to put to the Attorney General, when we are
complaining against their actions? It should be an independent written report given to the Attorney General, not by the Police. The Isle of Man Police Service I do not think are impartial enough and I think it is unfair.

665 Q33. Ms Edge: Sorry, John, can I just ask on that, did your complaint go right through the

process and did it go to the …? Because obviously there is the Police Complaints Commissioner – do you know, did it get to him and have you had the outcome of that?

Mr Guest: Right, I will answer that. When I made my complaint on several occasions I was

670 spoken to by several high-ranking police officers and that was not put to me. It was put to me
that I would be treated as a dissatisfied customer and that was as far as it was going.

  1. Ms Edge: So you were not aware of that option?

675 Mr Guest: I was not made aware of the other option that you just mentioned. Ms Edge: Thank you.

  1. The Chairman: Can I ask the same question I have just asked you about the Chief

680 Constable in relation to the Attorney General: anything other than what you have said already
that you would like us to ask the Attorney General?

Mr Guest: To ask the Attorney General?

685 The Chairman: Yes.

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Mr Guest: I would like him to make public why the contents of the file … I think the file is in the defence of the Police. The Police do not want there to be a prosecution because we, the victims, want to ask the Police questions because the Police do not want this to go ahead. So I

690 think it is not a fair system. I think it should be an independently placed file before the Attorney
General, not by the Isle of Man Police. It is too local, it is too friendly in the contents of … Civil servants and the Police are all together and they do not want it to happen, and I think that is totally unfair in a criminal judicial way. It should be an off-Island investigation and then a file put forward.

695 And the health of the paedophile in question should not be in question. He should be
wheeled into a court in a wheelchair, like in anywhere else in the world; age is no barrier. So I think the Police are acting in their own interest, not in the interest of the victims, as shown in their actions towards the victims as well.

700 Q36. The Chairman: Okay. Without answering on behalf of the Chief Constable … We will

certainly put that to the Chief Constable, but the Chief Constable did submit a file seeking a prosecution.

Mr Guest: Well, yes, he might have done, but what was the content of the file? When you

705 have new evidence, where people are coming forward offering fresh evidence of abuse, and in
one instance abuse by another member of staff as well, given to the Police, where is the non-strength in that evidence?

We have not got a right to ask legal questions. We have not been given access to funded legal advice where we could ask these questions properly. We should be entitled to this. What is

710 happening on this Island, where people have not …? We are in the situation we are in because
we were not given an education whilst under the care of the Government, so we are not clever enough people to ask these kind of questions. Why are we not given access to funded legal advice so we can ask the questions? This is a right. Anywhere else in the world you would have a right to do that.


Q37. The Chairman: Yes. Again you make a good point in relation to that –

Mr Guest: Yes, I do.

720 The Chairman: We have a system which is means tested and, as we have had a

conversation –

Mr Guest: Yes, I can understand your means-tested system, but this goes past the means-tested system. We are talking about vulnerable people. I work for myself, I am a worker, I have

725 never claimed off the Government, but why should I have to find thousands of pounds to defend
myself and ask questions of a Government and a Police Force who have let me down and wronged me and taken away my life? Why should I have to find the money to do that?

I have spoken to a law firm in Athol Street – they want £260 an hour plus VAT. If I had been an educated person I maybe would be able to afford that, but I have broken my back for the last

730 30-40 years working on a building site because that is the outcome of the Government’s care for
me when I was young. They robbed me of my education, my innocence, and now I have got to pay for it to defend myself against what they did to me. Where is the fairness in that? That is totally unfair, not just for myself but my fellow victims.

The Police take your evidence and they treat you unfairly, and then they leave you alone.

735 Why can’t we ask the Police questions? Why can’t we ask Government questions through legal
counsel? Because we cannot afford it, and that is totally unfair.

You created us the way we are – do you know what I mean? – this Government. The people who spent endless years in jail did not spend endless years in jail because they chose to go out

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and do these bad things; it is because of the way they were created and brought up by an

740 uncaring Government and the Isle of Man Children’s Home.

Ms Edge: Can I just follow on?
The Chairman: Yes.


  1. Ms Edge: You have made comment about the Chief Constable and then, with regard to records, somebody saying that there were records being destroyed. We will make sure that that is a question that is asked.

750 Mr Guest: Well, if you have read the Chief Constable’s report, which is available to you, it is actually in there. I am only commenting on what he has … Luckily, I was able to read his report before it was taken off the website. So if you read his report you will see it. The way you looked at me there – his report was put on the website and it was removed.

755 The Chairman: It had to be removed because of the –

Mr Guest: Okay, that’s fine, but if you read the report you will find in there he states that in 1992, I think it was, files were destroyed or were unobtainable and he has mentioned it on several occasions, and all of a sudden the files that were unobtainable would seem to be

760 available to the Isle of Man Children’s Centre to write a book. And then, in 2017, luckily, an anonymous caller made a call saying that they were destroying files. Well, I would like to question how, when the Isle of Man Children’s Centre knew there was an investigation going on and the files were part of the investigation, they were destroying the files. The Isle of Man Children’s Centre were destroying the files, by which they were destroying criminal evidence

765 which they knew was part of an investigation, so they should be made responsible and accountable for what they have done.

  1. The Clerk: Just to mention the written evidence which you talked about from the Police and some other written evidence was taken down from the Tynwald website when this

770 investigation was suspended –

Mr Guest: Why was that?

The Clerk: – but it is back on the website now. That was to maintain the separation between

775 the –

Mr Guest: Yes, thank you for that, but I would like to question as well the contents of the Chief Constable’s report. He is stating lack of files and lack of evidence but he is criticising me and others and our actions. How has he found out this information when the files are not

780 available to look into our circumstances? He is quoting individuals and group activities, so where is this information coming from? We want to question, through legal counsel, what he has written. A lot of it is untrue and defamation of our character, because people can read that and then when this Committee sits and they read that … If they had just read that report from the Chief Constable and did not speak to me and others, they would have thought they were dealing

785 with people who were criminals and unruly – because that is what he has written in his report, which is totally untrue, claiming alcoholism and unruly behaviour. Okay, unruly behaviour is fair because that is the way we were brought up. We were brought up without boundaries, without regulation, but that was not our fault; that was the way we were brought up. And on leaving the care system we were just let go. We were not given any accommodation, nothing. So we were

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790 angry and we were unruly because we had no boundaries, but this Government, through the Isle of Man Children’s Centre, created how we were. So that is it.

The Chairman: Okay. Anything else?

795 Ms Edge: I do not think so. We have covered everything, haven’t we?

  1. The Chairman: Again, I think you have partially answered this, but what do you think Tynwald should do as a result of …? When we report, what you think should be the outcome?

800 Mr Guest: Well, I think en masse the Isle of Man Government want to get a backbone and acknowledge what has happened. The Isle of Man Government and the Police Service are only interested in the reputation of the Isle of Man, and this story is not good for the Isle of Man. But it has to be acknowledged and the people who are victims, they have to give recognition to them. At the moment the actions of the Government, the MHKs and the Council of Ministers are

805 showing that they do not care.

The Chairman: Okay. I think that is probably all we need to ask you, John. Again, thank you very much for coming along –

810 Mr Guest: Well, I would like to say one more thing.
The Chairman: Yes, please do.

Mr Guest: The former speaker, you asked her a question about the committee of the Isle of

815 Man Children’s Home. The committee of the Isle of Man Children’s Home were local businessmen who used to meet once a month in Knottfield. They were local businessmen and I believe that, because of the cunningness and actions of the paedophile who ran the children’s home, they had no understanding of what was going on. They only came to the building for about two hours once a month to have their meeting, so I do not believe that they would have

820 had any knowledge of what was going on.

  1. The Chairman: You do not think they were complicit in it?

Mr Guest: No, definitely not. I would not have thought so, because of the way he was

825 running the place and they were not there anyway, so I do not think so.

  1. Ms Edge: Can I just ask you one more question, John? Obviously they had a duty to have you educated. You did attend school –

830 Mr Guest: Who had a duty?

  1. Ms Edge: Well if you were in somebody’s care … Did you attend school? Mr Guest: Yes.


  1. Ms Edge: Has anybody looked at any of your schooling records with regard to your time within Knottfield?

Mr Guest: No.

840 My son is 10 years of age now, the age I was when I was being abused. He is starting secondary school and when he goes to secondary school I will encourage him, and if he is good

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at a subject I would like to ask what he wants to be when he leaves school and I will point him in

the direction of what he wants to do.

When I was in the children’s home I was not driven or helped in any way in my education. My

845 education suffered. I was quite good at maths and quite a bright person at school, but when the paedophile in question came to the children’s home my education suffered. All I wanted to do was get away from the children’s home and the only way to get away from the children’s home was to get away from school. Okay? So my good education, which would have got me a decent job, which would have made me a better citizen, suffered because the Government, under the

850 care of the Government, employed this paedophile in this children’s home to ruin my life and others’, which ruined my education and my life.

So yes I went to school, and yes I did have to go to school. I skipped off school when I felt like it and I did not go to school when I wanted to, and on leaving school I got a leaver’s report which, out of about 200 children … I got a good leaver’s report: six As on my leaver’s report.

855 Teachers asked me why am I leaving – ‘You shouldn’t be leaving, you’ve got a good education,’ – but how could I say to them ‘I’m getting away’ from what I did? And then, when I left the children’s home, I decided when I left the children’s home. I got a bag into my room, packed my bag and left, and that was me leaving the children’s home. I was getting away from my education; my only escape from the children’s home was to leave my education. Okay?


Ms Edge: Thank you.

Mr Guest: Right.

865 Q45. The Chairman: Again, thank you very much for speaking to us privately previously, John, and for coming along today and being honest about such a difficult subject.

Mr Guest: I would like to say one more thing. I see that motion 35 was on the Knottfield Children’s Centre, but attached to the main motion was a secondary motion, which was present-

870 day care of children, which is understandable but I would just like to say that it should not have been included in the motion. The main motion was headed the Knottfield Children’s Centre and for this to be added and debated by Mrs Beecroft If you read the Hansard, the majority of her talk was based on modern-day practice. She did not really question or even look into … She acknowledged Knottfield but the majority of her talk was on modern-day practice, and really

875 that again is defamation against the main motion, which was for the Children’s Centre, which I feel should not have been … It should not be debated here today, modern-day practice. The children’s home, Knottfield, is the main reason we are here today and that is the only thing I am interested in talking about and listening to, and that should be a separate motion, not to be including anything else.


Q46. The Chairman: Okay. We are obviously required to comply with –

Mr Guest: Yes, but for what purpose? I do not know. Just to either dilute it down or make it seem less important, but it should not even be on the same statutory motion as the Knottfield

885 Children’s Centre, which was the heading on the motion anyway.

The Chairman: Okay. Thank you very much and we will now move on to our next –

Mr Guest: Well, I hope the politicians of the Isle of Man show respect to the people who

890 suffered and give us the justice we deserve.

The Chairman: I agree. (Mr Guest: Okay.) Thank you, John.

The next witness was called at 11.14 a.m.

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Mrs Kerry Sharpe MLC

  1. The Chairman: Our final witness this morning is Mrs Kerry Sharpe, Member of the Legislative Council.

895 For the record, please could you state your name and outline your professional background
as it relates to the subject we are talking about today.

Mrs Sharpe: My name is Kerry Sharpe. I am currently a Member of the Legislative Council, but prior to joining the Legislative Council on 12th March 2018 I was writing a book entitled

900 The History of the Children’s Centre, working title.

  1. The Chairman: Okay, thank you. Would you like to make any opening remarks?

Mrs Sharpe: Yes, I have prepared a short introduction.

905 In November 2013 I was asked by the then CEO of the Children’s Centre, John Knight, to write
the book
The History of the Children’s Centre. Over the next two years I met with John Knight and his development manager, Juana Warburton, approximately once a month to discuss the progress of my research and how the material would be presented in the book.

We did not sign a contract; we had a verbal contract. We did sign a letter of intent. We

910 decided that I would write the book for free, so long as my expenses incurred during the first
year of research for the book were covered by the Children’s Centre. We agreed that publishing costs would be covered by the Children’s Centre.

I drew up a document for the trustees outlining the structure, style and content of the book, plus an estimate of publishing costs. This was circulated to trustees and I attended a trustees’

915 meeting to answer any questions they had.

I gave a short talk to staff members about the history of the organisation. I interviewed staff

members in situ at the Children’s Centre. I was asked to interview the oldest former child, who is

96, in Cirencester. The organisation paid for my flight and hotel.

John Knight agreed with the trustees that the Children’s Centre would pay half the publishing

920 costs and the other half would be found via donations. In short, I was researching material for a
book about the 150-year history of the Children’s Centre. The book was to be published and ready to coincide with the anniversary celebrations. It was a collaborative effort.

In January 2015, following a controversial loss on behalf of the Children’s Centre of a raft of Government contracts, John Knight and Juana Warburton resigned. Fiona Dawson took over as

925 CEO. For the first 15 months, Ms Dawson actively supported the book. She arrange bi-monthly
meetings with me to discuss progress. She encouraged me to meet with staff members to help progress anniversary celebrations, for example. I was asked to attend a meeting with Katie King at the Manx Museum with staff members to discuss a potential exhibition at the Museum which would run in parallel to the launch of the book.

930 From March 2016, for reasons I will explain, it appeared that the Children’s Centre began to
distance themselves from the book, resulting in a meeting in April 2017 between myself, Fiona Dawson and Andrew Johnston, a former lawyer and trustee who was allegedly representing the will of the trustees, where Andrew Johnston informed me that, I quote, ‘The Children’s Centre has never wanted a book writing about its history,’ and, I quote, ‘We would

935 rather sweep under the carpet aspects of our history which we don’t like.’ Ms Dawson informed
me, ‘We just can’t afford the litigation.’ She said that in the UK there were instances where organisations had been successfully sued by descendants of looked after children who had been sent to the colonies, for example. She said that since I had been working on the book – quote – ‘people had come crawling out of the woodwork’. She used the example of 10 people who had

940 recently brought about a claim of historical abuse and said that this was all due to my writing the

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In June 2017, I informed Ms Dawson that I would not be going ahead with publishing the book at the end of July after all. I informed her that I had not yet decided what to do with the material. I informed my interviewees, who were all adamant that I press on with the book. I

945 obtained legal advice. I approached this inquiry and gave written evidence.

I then approached Culture Vannin, who agreed that the book … I submitted a few sample chapters and what I did was I broadened the aspect of the book to look at the history of looked after children on the Island as a whole over the past 150 years so that the Children’s Centre would not feel that they were specifically under the spotlight only. Culture Vannin agreed that

950 the book was of historical value and they presented me with a grant towards publication costs. Chris Thomas MHK, Chair of Culture Vannin, said:

Culture Vannin is delighted to award a grant towards the publishing of Kerry’s new book The Herring Barrel Children because it represents an important contribution to Manx history, focusing on an area which had previously been under-researched and consequently little understood. The book promises many fascinating and compelling stories which are likely to be of interest to many of us.’

Thank you.

  1. The Chairman: Thank you.

955 You did get in touch with us last August but since then you have been elected Member of the Legislative Council and you have been appointed Member of the Department of Health and Social Care. Have you taken on any responsibilities in the Department of Health and Social Care to do with looked after children?

960 Mrs Sharpe: Not so far.

  1. The Chairman: And do you see any conflict between your role in the Department of Health and Social Care and your role as an impartial witness in this inquiry?

965 Mrs Sharpe: I do not, because my research was carried out before I joined the Legislative Council. I have yet to research the final chapter of the book because I want to see what happens in 2018 first and what the result of this inquiry is, but apart from material which I have gathered through interviewing people, all of my material has come from the public domain, so I see no reason why research on the modern period should not come from information which is in the

970 public domain.

  1. The Chairman: Okay. Were you shocked or surprised when the trustee, the lawyer you spoke about earlier, said what he said?

975 Mrs Sharpe: I was shocked because I thought, ‘Why are you lying to me? As an organisation you asked me to write this book about the history.’ Of course, since then the CEO changed and members of the trustees changed, but nevertheless the book was ongoing and on the day that John Knight left the Children’s Centre he confirmed to me, ‘The book will still go ahead.’ I felt that the lawyer was lying to me, yes, so I was shocked.

980 I was also shocked at the term that was used – ‘people have come crawling out of the woodwork’ – because this was exactly what 19th-century language was used when referring to orphans and looked after children. They were referred to as ‘street urchins’, for example, and ‘street Arabs’. They were referred to in dehumanising terms and I felt that this was the impression that I was getting that day from Fiona Dawson and Andrew Johnston.


  1. Ms Edge: Can I just ask: you said that as yet you have not got anything to do with looked after children within your role. Can you state for the record what your role is within DHSC, what responsibilities you have?

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Mrs Sharpe: I have joined the Department of Health and Social Care with special

990 responsibility for children and families. As yet, the director has been on annual leave, so we have
not actually met to discuss what my role will be specifically. That is as far as we are at the moment.

  1. Ms Edge: And you do not feel there is any conflict with what you are aware of at the 995 moment?

Mrs Sharpe: No, I do not, because I have researched the book so far using information available at the Manx Museum, which is open to the public, and I would not ever use any confidential information, for example, as material for my book.


  1. The Chairman: Okay. So we will go back to Knottfield in context.

Thank you for your paper, which we have, as you know, published on our website. Please could you briefly talk us through the origins of the place we know as Knottfield and the key stages in its evolution.


Mrs Sharpe: The Home’, as it was commonly known for over a century, starts its life on Boxing Day 1868. On this day, Scottish Wesleyan David Russell went out onto the streets surrounding the North Quay in Douglas and took as many homeless children as he could find into his own house in James Street. David Russell had been employed as the agent of the

1010 Douglas Town Mission. The Town Mission had asked Russell to identify the key causes of
drunkenness and depravity allegedly so prevalent in the town. What Russell had reported was that there were vast numbers of homeless children wandering the streets and that what the town needed most was an industrial school for orphan and destitute children. Only if these children could be given a sound, moral education and training for work, he believed, could the

1015 town’s endless cycle of poverty and crime be broken. From this point, the main stages in the

evolution of the home are as follows.

In 1869, Russell’s home moved from James Street to Woodside Terrace, South Quay.

In 1870, overcrowding led to a move to Mountain View, Glencrutchery Road. The home’s

official title changed to the Douglas Industrial Home for Destitute Children, then the Manx

1020 Industrial Home for Destitute Children, then the Isle of Man Industrial Home for Orphan and

Destitute Children. However, it was always referred to commonly as ‘the Home’.

In 1881, a large donation from an aristocratic miser, Pierre Baume, led to the purchase of

Strathallan Hall, a former boarding school in Onchan, so the home moved to Strathallan Hall.

In 1906, money from Henry Bloom Noble’s will allowed for the construction of a purpose-

1025 built children’s home on Glencrutchery Road. Noble’s trustees also made a £20,000 donation to
the home’s endowment fund.

In 1939, the home moved to Lorne House, Castletown, returning to Glencrutchery Road in 1946. The home became referred to by the press as the Children’s Home; however, its official title was still the Isle of Man Industrial Home for Orphan and Destitute Children.

1030 In 1968, the home moved to Woodbourne Road and held its official opening ceremony on

1st January 1969. The manager requested that the home be known as Knottfield.

On 16th April 1971, the home expanded into the adjacent property, Frances Villas, at

numbers 90-92 Woodbourne Road, in order to start a day nursery.

In 1983, the residential arm of the home closed. However – and this is crucial – the charity

1035 still continued to run and the newspapers reported that Mrs Tonks, the nursery nurse, would
keep the nursery running and the chairman of the committee, Mr Bob Dowty, was quoted in the newspapers as saying, ‘The charity is still alive and kicking.’

In 1984, the home’s manager began developing before- and after-school clubs. So the residential arm closed and the nursery continued to run, along with a summer holiday club

1040 which was run by Mrs Peggy Pugh. In 1984, Mrs Peggy Pugh was asked to take over the running

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of Knottfield and she began developing before- and after-school clubs, a family centre, camping

weekends and a contact centre. The press referred to the home as the Knottfield Centre.

On 10th May 1985, the residential arm of the home reopened. Between 1985 and 2000, the home’s name was officially changed to the Isle of Man Children’s Centre. In 2000, children in

1045 residence moved into small, family-sized houses, although the day nursery and other services

In 2008, the Isle of Man Children’s Centre officially changed its name to the Children’s Centre. In 2008, both buildings on Woodbourne Road were knocked into one and a large glass front bearing the name ‘The Children’s Centre’ was erected at the front of the building.

1050 In November 2014, the Children’s Centre lost its Government contract for residential

  1. The Chairman: Thank you very much for that.

The point I was hoping to get at was that for a long time, including the time we are looking at,

1055 the Isle of Man Children’s Centre was responsible for this accommodation on behalf of the

Mrs Sharpe: Yes, from the passing of the Children’s Act in 1953 the Isle of Man Government took on responsibility for all looked after children in the Isle of Man.

  1. The Chairman: So do you agree it might be helpful if we were to speak to the Children’s Centre so they can let us know their part of the story?

Mrs Sharpe: Yes.

The Chairman: Thank you.

  1. Ms Edge: In the evidence that you have submitted you also mention the Ramsey children’s home. How did this relate to the home in Douglas with regard to the evidence? And

1070 there had been lots of other children’s homes around the Island you have commented on.

Mrs Sharpe: Well, the Ramsey children’s home was always a separate home. I have some notes on the Ramsey children’s home. It was actually set up before the Douglas children’s home. It had its origins in a Ragged School which was set up in the winter of 1862 by Miss Susanna

1075 Gibson, who was daughter of the shipyard owner T C Gibson, and in 1963 a permanent home, Ballacloan, also known as the Ramsey Industrial School, was built by T C Gibson in north Ramsey and run by Miss Gibson.

  1. The Clerk: Sorry, did you say 1863 or 1963?

Mrs Sharpe: 1863. Miss Gibson, in 1878, applied for affiliation to the Methodist Children’s Homes and Orphanages because by this point her father, who had been a main benefactor, had died and she could not afford to run it; she was relying on donations. She applied to the Methodist Children’s Homes and Orphanages and so the Ramsey children’s home then became

1085 part of Methodist Children’s Homes and Orphanages, which are now known as the National Children’s Homes.

So there was never any connection between the Douglas children’s home and the Ramsey children’s home.

1090 Q59. The Clerk: Were there a whole lot of Methodist homes in the Island, or was that her trying to make a link with an off-Island …?

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Mrs Sharpe: As far as I know. From my research I have not been able to find any other children’s homes on the Isle of Man. I know for a fact, through going through the registers since

1095 1868 for the Douglas children’s home, that children were routinely sent to the Douglas
children’s home from all over the Island. This was why they had to keep moving, because they kept running out of room; the more successful they were, the more children were sent to them.

  1. The Chairman: Can I ask you: you said in preparation of your work you had access to the

1100 Manx Museum, for example, in terms of … Were there any records actually available from the
Children’s Centre which were made available to you to assist in the preparation of the work when you were initially engaged by the previous director?

Mrs Sharpe: At the first meeting which I attended with Mr Knight and Mrs Warburton they

1105 gave me a folder and they said, ‘This is all the information that we’ve got.’ It consisted of a
research paper which had been written in 1986 by a Miss D Cringle, entitled ‘The Emigration of Manx Children to Canada 1884-1928’; one black and white photograph, which had been published in an Isle of Man newspaper around 1960, depicting children from the children’s home in Douglas receiving presents from Father Christmas; a recent public report on the

1110 Children’s Centre, detailing their ethos and the services that they offered; a business card
belonging to a former looked after child from the home, who was in his 70s but was happy to be involved in all the Children’s Centre’s projects; and a general outline, which Mrs Warburton gave me, which she had used when giving talks about the history of the Children’s Centre across the Island. That was all the information that I ever received from the Children’s Centre.


  1. The Chairman: Would you have expected there to be more substantial records?

Mrs Sharpe: No, because Mr Knight informed me that he and Mrs Warburton had given all the records they could find to the Manx Museum. So I went to the Manx Museum and there are

1120 four boxes all clearly labelled ‘Children’s Centre Archives’ – and these are available to the public,
but you have to request them.

The Chairman: That is helpful, thank you.

1125 Q62. The Clerk: Does that include records involving individual names of people who are still


Mrs Sharpe: Well, at the time when I started my research the information was given to me by the curators at the Museum and this included the main register, which started in 1868 and

1130 which listed names, and then at the back there are some loose pieces of paper and the names
go up to … I have noted this, but I think it is round about 1980. But I do not know whether, since I started my research, the new management at the Children’s Centre have made any arrangements with the Museum. It might be that you have to apply for special permission to access that register; I am not sure.


Q63. The Chairman: So, at the time you were able to go and look at these registers, which went up to … I think you say 1983 in your … In other words, it does include people who are still alive – and what you were able to read about them was what sort of information?

1140 Mrs Sharpe: The only information contained in the register is entry date, exit date, name and

date of birth, and then in the 19th century there were some little notes made about some children – for example, ‘emigrated to Canada’ or a child ‘has been placed as a servant’ in a certain house. But in later years – and I am trying to think off the top of my head … Well,

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definitely from the 1970s onwards, there is no detail about the children other than entry date,

1145 exit date and date of birth.

The Clerk: Right.

  1. The Chairman: One of the witnesses we have spoken to privately said that he wondered

1150 what had happened to personal effects – photographs, that kind of thing; whether they would be retained. There was nothing like that retained in what you saw?

Mrs Sharpe: No. All I obtained from the Children’s Centre was this one folder which I mentioned to you, and the files at the Museum contain register and book-keeping details; that is

1155 it.

  1. The Clerk: So when you talk about files – sorry, but can we just make it absolutely clear for people listening – did you see files on individuals?

1160 Mrs Sharpe: No. When I say ‘files’ – sorry – I mean there are four boxes of information, and I think I detailed in my written evidence what is contained in each box. So there is no detail about individuals, other than name, entry, exit and date of birth.

  1. Ms Edge: Can you just clarify: on the records that you received from the Children’s

1165 Centre – the one file that you received – is that information that was in the public domain at that time, or do you think you have received confidential information from them?

Mrs Sharpe: Let’s see what was in it. The research paper by Miss D Cringle is not the only copy that is available; I think the Family History Society has a copy, probably. And it was an

1170 academic piece of work. I certainly do not see that as a confidential piece of information.

The black and white photograph they gave me had been published in the Isle of Man

newspapers, so that was not confidential.

Their public report is available to the public.

The business card from the former looked after child – he had already expressed the fact that

1175 he would help the Children’s Centre in any way. He still does help them. There was no reason

why they should think they should not give me his details.

And the notes from Mrs Warburton’s talk – she had already given those talks in public.

  1. Ms Edge: Can I ask: has the file gone back to the Children’s Centre, or have you retained

1180 it?

Mrs Sharpe: I have retained that as part of my research material.

  1. Ms Edge: Okay, and that was the agreement at the outset? There was no agreement

1185 that you had to return any of their information?

Mrs Sharpe: No.

Ms Edge: Okay, thanks.


  1. The Chairman: The Tynwald resolution states that Knottfield closed in 1983. Is that true, that it was in 1983 it closed?

Mrs Sharpe: The residential arm of Knottfield closed in 1983 but Knottfield did not close in

1195 1983. As far as I am concerned –

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Q70. The Chairman: Okay, so for residential.
Mrs Sharpe: – it did not ever close.

1200 Q71. Ms Edge: Did you find any reasons behind why they decided to close the residential arm?

Mrs Sharpe: Well, the official reason given – by Mr Bob Dowty, who was chairman of the committee at the time, and it was the committee who made the decision to close down the

1205 residential arm, and he is quoted in newspapers of the time – is that numbers of children had dwindled and there were only three children left, being looked after by Mr and Mrs Marshall.

I believe the reason why the numbers dwindled was that social workers suspected that sexual abuse was going on and they were purposely not placing children in the home. Yes, there was a move towards fostering during the 1970s as a preferred option. However, I still do believe

1210 that that is the case, having interviewed one of the main social workers from the 1970s, and this social worker was the social worker who the first original child reported child sexual abuse to. He reported it to her prior to going to the Police.

  1. The Chairman: I was called to ask you were any of the social workers still around now,

1215 because we have not spoken to any of them and it might be helpful, if that was what they suspected, to enquire as to why they did not go any further.

Mrs Sharpe: Well, it was not just that it was suspected; the social worker told me she and her colleagues believed the allegations that the children were making and she told me that meetings

1220 went on between the Police, between Social Services, between Knottfield and the social workers. There was a whole official line that they had to follow because there had been an official complaint made to the Police.

She told me that her managers were adamant that social workers had to just carry on as if nothing had happened because Mr Marshall had not been officially charged, but from what she

1225 told me also I do feel that social workers were purposely not placing children there.

  1. The Chairman: Perhaps it would be helpful for the community, I think, if separate to today you might ask this social worker if she will be prepared to talk to us, because I think it would be helpful if we could speak to her. She will have seen our call for evidence, I am sure –


Mrs Sharpe: Yes, she has.

  1. The Chairman: Right, but it would be helpful to us if she does feel able to come and speak to us, I think.

1235 You have said why it closed at the time. What happened to the children who were there at the time?

Mrs Sharpe: The children were fostered by Mr Marshall, and I want to know how that could possibly have happened.

1240 The social worker that I mentioned kept a close eye on the children and she said that one of the children, who had a severe disability and was not able to speak, her behaviour deteriorated quite rapidly. Social workers visited and brought with them anatomical dolls, and the social worker said she was sure that the child was being sexually abused. The child became quite excited when they produced the anatomical dolls but was unable to say anything, and the social

1245 worker told me that she made the decision that that child had to be moved.

  1. Ms Edge: And do you know if that did happen?

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Mrs Sharpe: I do not know because I do not have any access to these records, but I presume that the child must have been moved. But obviously there were other children who had been

1250 fostered by the Marshalls.

Q76. The Chairman: Just for the record, some of the former residents have expressed concern that you may have been given access to their personal information when they have not. That is not the case?


Mrs Sharpe: No.

  1. The Chairman: And I asked about the photographs.

The Children’s Centre told us when you discussed your manuscript with them in 2017 they

1260 did not wish to be associated with it in its current form because of the possible identification and adverse impact on individuals mentioned, their families and others who may suffer emotional distress from some of the content or personal views expressed. Is that how you saw it?

1265 Mrs Sharpe: No, I did not, because the reason I submitted the first draft of the book to them in 2017 was that they had already distanced themselves from me and suddenly there was no response coming back. I decided that I would submit the first draft to them as it was in order for them to see exactly what material we were talking about. It was only for the eyes of Fiona Dawson and Andrew Johnston.

1270 I explained to them clearly it was a first draft and, as such, it contained all possible information which could go into the book. Not all that information would be going into the final version at all; it was a first draft. I used initials appertaining to interviewees in the knowledge that Fiona Dawson and Andrew Johnston probably would know who those individuals were because they worked at the Children’s Centre, but it did not matter – it was for their eyes only;

1275 that was not what was going out to the public at all.

So I found the fact that they were supposedly worried that people were being identified when they did not want to be identified was just not a valid argument. Also, the interviewees I had spoken to – I was surprised, actually, but they all wanted to be named in the book. Every time I interviewed someone I said, ‘You know you don’t have to be identified; we can use initials,

1280 we can use false initials,’ but they all wanted to use their real names.

  1. The Chairman: In the paper you sent us you said you had a conversation with one staff member who told you about staff being told to withdraw their interviews for the book and staff being told to destroy data. Can you tell us more about that?


Mrs Sharpe: Yes, I can. On 6th April 2017, one member of staff I had interviewed for the book e-mailed me saying:

It has recently been brought to my attention that you have requested information in connection to me to support your book The History of the Children’s Centre, working title. I cannot stress strongly enough that I do not and have never given you or anyone else permission to use my name or any information referring to the Children’s Centre. With this in mind, I insist any references are removed.

I was quite surprised to receive that because I knew that Mr Knight had e-mailed all staff at the Children’s Centre and asked them to comply with me if I wanted to interview them and I had

1290 interviewed a vast number of staff in situ at the Children’s Centre. And one of the purposes of
the book was to inform the public what the Children’s Centre did – that was the point. So I was surprised at that.

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Then I received a letter from Mrs Pugh, dated April 2017, saying that she had not realised that the book would include ‘thoughts of former residents and also of other staff’. So she

1295 informed me in the letter that she wanted her interview removed.

I met, by chance, a woman who had acted as a conduit between myself and a former looked after child who was now living in the UK and she asked me if the book was still going ahead. I said yes and she said, ‘Oh, well, I’m surprised because the former child has been phoned up by someone from the Children’s Centre asking them why they gave you an interview and why they

1300 were taking part in this book at all,’ and they had left the former child quite upset about it, but whoever it was who had called from the Children’s Centre had said, ‘It doesn’t matter because the book isn’t going ahead anyway.’ This came as a surprise to me.

I called all of my interviewees to inform them that the book was not going to be published in July 2017 and I spoke to one interviewee who said, ‘Well, we were all asked to withdraw our

1305 interviews from you, but I didn’t withdraw mine,’ he said, ‘because I sought legal advice and I was told that I did not have to do this.’ But he did say, ‘We were all called into a meeting and we were asked to withdraw our interviews.’

  1. Mrs Edge: I am trying to get it clear in my heard because I think I have heard a few

1310 conflicts there in that you have said you did not have individual names but you felt that the Children’s Centre did not want you to go ahead with things because you might have had names. When you have done your research and you have met with staff, no individual names of children who were in there have ever been discussed with you?

1315 Mrs Sharpe: You are talking about staff now that are dealing with children?

  1. Mrs Edge: No, when you have done your interviews with all these people with regard to your book and you have talked about them trying to send an e-mail round saying they do not have to speak to you. You had already spoken to a number of them. Were there ever any names 1320 mentioned?

Mrs Sharpe: Well, for example, when I was interviewing, say, the person who runs Thriving Families, which was a project the Children’s Centre was running – it was an early intervention project – I was talking to that person about how does Thriving Families work and I did ask her if I

1325 could interview someone from Thriving Families so that I would have a real-life example to use in the book to show what a fantastic intervention it is. So, together with the person that runs Thriving Families, I did meet a recipient of Thriving Families and I asked her how she would like to be referred to in the book, and she just said she would be quite happy being referred to by her first name.

1330 But in general I was dealing with the whole history of 150 years. I was not dealing necessarily with individuals, other than people I interviewed personally. So it is not as if I was interviewing staff members and they were reeling off lists of former looked after children or looked after children. That was not the point of the book. The book was about how the history of the Children’s Centre had evolved as an organisation.


  1. Ms Edge: But you did speak to a social worker, who gave you, it sounds like, quite a lot of detail? But hopefully we will get the opportunity to hear that.

Mrs Sharpe: She did give me a lot of detail, yes, but you are in this situation whereby

1340 individuals may be referred to … For example, with this social worker, I am respectful of confidentiality, so anything which has been told to me by an interviewee … I have not spoken with anyone else and I certainly would not put it into a book without express permission of that person.

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All of my interviewees, I feel, trust me. They trusted me. I said to all of them, ‘When I finish

1345 my final draft of the book I will bring the chapter to you that you appear in and I will read you the chapter and then you can tell me whether you’re happy with that, and whether you want to be named or not named – it’s up to you.’

Q82. Ms Edge: When you talked about your first draft, which was solely for the purposes of

1350 the Children’s Centre, you did say there was a lot of extra data in there that would not have been used in your book.

Mrs Sharpe: That is right, yes.

1355 Q83. Ms Edge: So have you retracted that from the Children’s Centre now and you are the only person who holds that?

Mrs Sharpe: Yes. They certainly did not keep it, no; it is in my possession.

1360 Q84. The Chairman: The Children’s Centre said to us in their submission that you told them in June 2017 you had taken legal advice and decided not to go ahead with publishing the book. Do you see that as a correct statement of what you said to them in June 2017?

Mrs Sharpe: On 16th June 2017, I sent an e-mail to Ms Dawson saying:

I have decided not to go ahead with publishing the book at the end of July.

1365 She asked, on 16th June 2017:

Do you intend to publish an alternative version at a later date?

On 23rd June, I replied:

To answer your question, obviously I have researched and collated a lot of material which is of historical interest and I do not want to consign it to the waste bin. However, I have not yet made a decision on how best to present that material.

  1. The Clerk: While you are thinking about it, just another question about the process of commissioning the book. The conviction of the former head of the Knottfield Children’s Home in 1992 was reported in the Manx Independent on 22nd December 1992. Was it in 2013 or 2014

1370 you made contact with John Knight?

Mrs Sharpe: In 2013.

  1. The Clerk: In 2013, so that is some 21 years after the report appeared in the newspaper.

1375 Did John Knight know about the abuse?

Mrs Sharpe: He told me that after he had had his interview in the Isle of Man for the job of CEO and then returned to the UK to wait to hear whether he had got the job or been offered the job, he received an anonymous letter in the post – well, he said it was anonymous but he felt it

1380 was from one of the trustees that had interviewed him – saying, ‘Just so you know what you’re getting into,’ and contained in the envelope was a cutting from the newspaper outlining what had happened to Mr Marshall and how he had been imprisoned. Mr Knight never found out who sent him that.

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1385 Q87. The Clerk: Can you say a bit more about the genesis of the idea of a 150-year

celebration? Was there any particular reason why they felt like doing it that way, by means of having a history book?

Mrs Sharpe: Well, Mr Knight had read a book written by Anna Magnusson called

1390 The Quarriers Story, which is a history of the Quarriers children’s homes in Scotland, and when I
met Mr Knight he said that he had been looking for someone to write a book similar to that about the history of the Children’s Centre because in general people believed the Children’s Centre to just be a nursery on Woodbourne Road; they did not realise that it had this very rich history.


  1. The Clerk: Does the Scottish book refer to historical abuse at all?

Mrs Sharpe: It does refer to abuse having taken place at the Scottish children’s homes; yes, it does refer to that.


  1. The Clerk: So do you think John Knight knew that one of the possible consequences of commissioning the book was to lift the lid on historical abuse?

Mrs Sharpe: He absolutely knew that, because that was one of the main topics that I brought

1405 up at our monthly meetings. We discussed how would we approach the material from the 1970s
because it would be very sensitive, and we talked a lot about how would people want to be named, could people be identified, what would be the effect on the Children’s Centre of publishing the stories of what happened in the 1970s. John Knight said very clearly the Children’s Centre must be big enough and brave enough to hold up its hands and say, ‘We made

1410 mistakes. We are not the same people working now that we were in the 1970s, but as an
organisation we had responsibility to look after these children and we failed.’ He was always very open about that and very certain that the abuse that happened in the 1970s should definitely be part of the book.

1415 Q90. The Clerk: I think we have had John Knight before this Committee when he was in post,

and I guess we could ask him this question but can you remember anything about his professional background before he was in the Isle of Man?

Mrs Sharpe: Before he joined the Children’s Centre he was working in the north east of

1420 England for an organisation that dealt with children who I think may have been excluded from
school, but I cannot say off the top of my head right now exactly what his job was.

The Clerk: Okay, thanks.

1425 Q91. Ms Edge: Can I just follow up: you said you were not going to be publishing the book in

July 2017, but then afterwards you talked about … that you had broadened the title of the book and you had had a grant from Culture Vannin, from Minister Thomas. So you are still considering publishing something and you have had a grant from Culture Vannin to do that?

1430 Mrs Sharpe: Yes. Obviously the Children’s Centre had withdrawn themselves from the book

entitled The History of the Children’s Centre. It was clear that they no longer wanted to be involved with that book at all, so I had to ask myself do I just put this research aside and let down my interviewees, who were all very adamant that they wanted their stories to be heard, or do I press on and try to get it published in some other way, and the most obvious way seemed

1435 to be to broaden out the remit of the book and make it a general history of looked after children
in the Isle of Man. Although the history of the Children’s Centre would play a big role in that,

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because it was always the main children’s home, through broadening it out I could then go and seek funding for publication from various bodies – for example, Culture Vannin.

1440 Q92. Ms Edge: So can I ask what date you received that grant and do you think it is still appropriate if you have got the role of Children and Families within the Department of Health and Social Care?

Mrs Sharpe: I received the grant just before Christmas 2017 and I have two years to use that

1445 grant. I do not see a conflict because … Why would there be a conflict? The only reason I can see that there would be a conflict would be if I were to use confidential information which I was only party to through being the Member for Children and Families. But I would not do that. I would only continue in the same vein as I have done throughout the rest of the book, which is taking information which is in the public domain.


Q93. Ms Edge: We will be hearing from the Chief Constable and the Attorney General later this month. Anything you think we should be asking them?

Mrs Sharpe: Yes! I think that the public deserves a better understanding of how the Police

1455 deal with documentation, for example, in relation to child sexual abuse. I know that the 1970s were a different time, but the records appertaining to the allegations which children made in the 1970s, as far as I know, are not in the possession of the Police. I know it was a different time but I think the public deserves an explanation for why those records are not available. The Chief Constable referred in his evidence to the fact that there were records from the 1992 inquiry on

1460 behalf of Isle of Man Constabulary but that the Constabulary routinely destroys material at set periods. I would just like confirmation on how documents are kept now and for how long they are kept.

I would like to know that there has been a thorough investigation into whether there was a paedophile ring in operation on the Isle of Man during the 1970s. Clearly the manager of the

1465 children’s home was sexually abusing the children. We now know that the vicar of St Ninian’s, who the children went to on a Sunday from the children’s home, has been convicted for child abuse. We saw in the Isle of Man newspapers recently that a headmaster at Murray’s Road School … I cannot remember the details, but the newspaper article I read connected the headmaster of Murray’s Road School with child sexual abuse and the children at the Children’s

1470 Centre were sent to Murray’s Road School. So you have got a vicar, you have got a manager of a children’s home and you have got a headmaster: how many other people were involved with abusing children during the 1970s?

We know – well, I know from having spoken to interviewees who were at the children’s home in the 1970s – that children were abused when they went on holiday to the UK under

1475 Mr Marshall, so did this extend out into a UK-wide ring?

I would like to know whether anyone has talked to members of the committee from the 1970s and 1980s and what their explanation was for closing down the residential unit at Knottfield, because for the first time in 114 years they decided not to have a residential unit and it was very soon obvious that there was a need for a residential unit, because that is why it

1480 reopened. But if you look at the newspapers at the time, one of the reasons given was that there was a need for a residential unit because at times parents liked to go on holiday without their children and that is the only reason why the Isle of Man might need a residential unit. It was so obvious – it is obvious now, looking back and reading that in the newspapers from the 1980s – that there was a reluctance to admit that there was a need even for looked after children at the

1485 time and there was a definite sweeping under the carpet of … well, of the whole thing, of the abuse, of … yes.

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  1. The Chairman: Sadly, we will not be able to interview Mr Dowty, but do you have the names of the other people who were on the committee at that time?


Mrs Sharpe: Not in front of me, although they are available in the records.

The Chairman: Okay, if you have it in your files, if you could forward the other names, then we can obviously look at as well.

1495 What do you think the Committee should recommend to Tynwald?

Mrs Sharpe: I think the Committee should recommend that further investigations need to be made into child sexual abuse of looked after children in the Isle of Man prior to the 1970s and really that this inquiry should stay open further, because I know that there are more people out

1500 there who were abused during the 1970s, who for many reasons have not come forward. But perhaps now that these people have come forward there might be more.

Also, there was abuse occurring, according to my interviewees, after the 1970s in the Isle of Man, not necessarily at the Children’s Centre. But how do all these things connect up? We do not know yet and we do not know, the children who were being abused in the 1980s, whether

1505 their perpetrators were connected to those that were abusing during the 1970s. So I think that there has to be an opportunity for people to come forward pre-1970s as well as 1970s and post-1970s.

I think that there has to be a clear message coming through from Tynwald that Tynwald acknowledges that the Isle of Man Government was responsible for looked after children from

1510 1953 and that, even though we are talking about a different era, the children that were abused deserve at the very least an official apology on behalf of the Isle of Man Government.

I would like to see at statutory level something put in place whereby looked after children can always know that there is someone to talk to within Government, there is someone they can go to in order to access any services they might need, whether it is counselling or whether it is

1515 psychological services, because as adults looked after children continue to carry inside of them that looked after child forever.

My interviewees have told me about the day that they left the children’s home with a carrier bag. That is all they had – all their possessions in a carrier bag – and they went out into the world and they had no one. They knew there was nobody who was going to look out for them,

1520 there was no one who was going to support them in that role of parent for the rest of their lives. That has a huge effect on that person, on how that person develops relationships in the future and on how that person relates to their own children.

I have seen, through my research, that in the Isle of Man we are still looking after the same families that we have been looking after for generations because that cycle has not been

1525 broken, because those children, once they leave care, are not receiving the support that they need in order to go forward into their adult lives.

  1. Ms Edge: I am just interested … Obviously you have stated that you have been elected as an MLC since you have decided to continue with the book. Have you got a date you are

1530 planning to publish that?

Mrs Sharpe: I do not have a date as yet, because I have not been working on the book since I became an MLC, but I will have to find some time over the next two years to complete the book. But the main body of work is there already.


  1. The Chairman: Anything else you would like to say?

Mrs Sharpe: Yes, there is one thing. In relation to the committee during the 1970s, as I said, I would like, if possible, for members of the committee who are still remaining to be talked to

1540 about whether they suspected that abuse was going on.

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One thing that has always bugged me is in the 1976 annual report Mr Marshall, when talking about how he had moved his sleeping quarters from one of the houses on Woodbourne Road into the other – the other being the house that the children slept in – does refer in the report to:

The unforeseen ban on the use of our attics in Knottfield after nine months has made our own personal accommodation rather less than satisfactory.

So for a while he was banned from using the attic, and the fact that he used the term ‘ban’

1545 and the fact that when you look back he was very open about what he was doing in front of the committee – it was almost like, when you look back, he was parading his behaviour in front of everyone. The fact that he uses the term ‘ban’ suggests to me that someone in authority had told him, ‘You’re not sleeping in the attic anymore,’ because possibly they knew what was going on: they knew that he was abusing children in the attic. I just feel that people knew what was

1550 going on but nothing was ever said and nothing was ever done.

  1. The Clerk: When you say he was parading what he was doing in front of people, what do you mean?

1555 Mrs Sharpe: Well, for example, he was always very profuse in meetings thanking everyone for their support, so whenever he did something which with hindsight was part of his grooming process … For example, he immediately increased wages, increased the children’s pocket money allowance, bought a television, a radio, all kinds of luxury items that managers of the home had never bought before, but he bought them all at once. And he would always say, ‘And thank you

1560 to the committee for supporting me and what I’m doing; thank you to the committee for supporting my decision to move our annual holidays from Butlin’s’ – which had been a very public way of having a holiday with children – ‘to self-catering accommodation.’ He would say, ‘We had a wonderful time in our self-catering accommodation this summer – we were the only people in the building.’ He was very open about –


  1. The Clerk: So this was in the minutes of the committee meetings?

Mrs Sharpe: Yes, about thanking the committee for being behind the decisions that he was making, which with hindsight I think were part of a whole grooming process. He was always very

1570 public about thanking the committee for their support in allowing him to do these things. For example, when he moved into the attic he profusely thanked them and even when he says that he has had an unforeseen ban on the use of the attic, there were:

other difficulties of a more personal nature

which were caused by his not being able to use the attic –

but the overwhelming feeling I have is one of continued support and confidence, for which I wish to thank you, Mr Chairman and members of the committee.

So, yes, I just feel that he was open in displaying what he was doing, really.

The Chairman: Okay, I think you have come to the end of your contribution for today, anyway. Thank you very much for all the work that you have put into your presentation and for the research, which is obviously going to greatly assist the work of the Committee.

That will bring the public session of the Committee to a close for today. Thank you.

Mrs Sharpe: Thank you.

The Committee sat in private at 12.21 p.m.

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  • The Sanctuary for the Abused [A] has advice on how to prevent triggers.
  • National Association for People Abused in Childhood [B] has a freephone helpline and has links to local support groups.
  • One in Four [C]
  • Havoca [D].
  • Useful post on Triggers [E]  from SurvivorsJustice [F] blog.
  • Jim Hoppers pages on Mindfulness [G]  and Meditation [H] may be useful.
  • Hwaairfan blog An Indigenous Australian Approach to Healing Trauma  [J]
  • Survivors UK for victims and survivors of male rape or the sexual abuse of men [K]
  • Voicing CSA group [L] helps arrange survivors meetings in your area
  • A Prescription for me blog Various emotional support links [M]
  • Fresh Start Foundation Scottish not for profit group, helping child sexual abuse victims & survivors  [N]


[1] 2018 May 15 IOM Today Betrayal of Knottfield’s children

[2] 2016 Feb 16 Cathy Fox Blog  Isle of Man: Counselling for Victims / Survivors

[3] 2015 May 25 Cathy Fox Blog Child Sexual Abuse in the Isle of Man

[4] 2016 Feb 15 Cathy Fox Blog IOM Child Sexual Abuse Update Feb 2016

[5] 2015 May 25  Cathy Fox Blog 10 Steps on How to Research Child Sexual Abuse in your area – A Rough Guide Uses IOM as an example

[6] 2017 Oct 13 cathy fox blog Submissions to the Investigation into Knottfield Childrens Home, Isle of Man

[7] 2017 Aug 11 cathy fox blog Isle of Man – Paedophile Paradise for downloading child abuse pictures

[8] 2017 Aug 3 Cathy Fox Blog Isle of Man Knottfield Child Sexual Abuse Investigation Aug 2017


Let justice be done though the heavens fall – Fiat justitia ruat cælum

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A Song for ME /CFS – Bob Dylan’s ‘Blowin’ in the Wind’ has been re-imagined for the ‘millions missing’: Part One

The article below is taken from the Canary and written by Steve Topple. Thankyou Steve. The illness ME /CFS  (Myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome) not only is the illness of a thousand (inadequate) names, but there is also very little public recognition of the condition which can be devastating.

The article and particularly the song is so moving, beautiful yet haunting that I have felt compelled to reblog it. I break my rule about only posting about child sexual abuse.

I have suffered from ME /CFS for several years, relatively mildly compared to many. Most of the time I am not bedridden and can walk several hundred yards. Symptoms though are variable from day to day. Also going over (a hidden and changeable) cliff of using too much energy leads to muscle pain, brain fog, headaches, having to lie down, perhaps for several days.

I believe the illness is caused by some defect in the energy production process and mitochondria. The best book I have found is  Sarah Myhill Diagnosis and Treatment of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Myalgic Encephalitis: It’s Mitochondria, Not Hypochondria [3] 

See also my only other post that I have mentioned CFS  Lack of Blogging [4] 

However the illness has been dogged by differing names, differing symptoms, fraudulent research and pure ignorance from those who should know better.

My own doctor told me that I cannot be sleeping properly otherwise I would not be fatigued! They wanted to prescribe sleeping tablets and antidepressants. There is nothing like being in hock to Big Pharma rather than helping your patient or properly researching the disease.

The doctors do have a slight excuse in that the PACE trial was fraudulent [Why?] and so NHS recommended treatments are false and harmful. Not much actual research goes on and not much money is set aside for research. [Why?]

Sufferers are labelled as having a mental problem or moaners.

Are the causes already known but being suppressed for nefarious reasons?

If anyone has been helped by my blog posts over the years I would be grateful if you could spread this or Steve’s article on social media. Thankyou.

Anyhow here is Steve’s article, please visit his site which has all the features intact such as one to read the article to you, so he gets the credit and support. 2018 May 12 The Canary Steve Topple Bob Dylan’s ‘Blowin’ in the Wind’ has been re-imagined for the ‘millions missing’: Part One [1]

Bob Dylan’s ‘Blowin’ in the Wind’ has been re-imagined for the ‘millions missing’: Part One

A classic song by Bob Dylan has been rearranged and reimagined for a campaign about a disease affecting at least 17 million people worldwide. While it’s a powerful piece of musical activism, the artist behind it and the campaign around it are also awe-inspiring.

ME: chronic and debilitating

Myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome, commonly referred to as ME/CFS or just ME, is a chronic systemic neuroimmune disease. While symptoms vary for every person, people living with it often experience:

  • Debilitating fatigue and a worsening of symptoms brought on by physical or mental activities, or both. Often referred to as post-exertional malaise.
  • Flu-like symptoms.
  • All-over pain.
  • Sleep disturbance/problems.
  • Cognitive impairments.
  • Impairments of the body’s autonomic systems, such as nervous, digestive, and endocrine.
  • Hypersensitivity.

Between 17 and 24 million people worldwide are thought to be living with ME; in the UK, it is around 250,000. But the disease has been fraught with controversy. For decades (and often still to this day), the medical profession has not properly recognised it. People living with ME have been disbelievedstigmatised, given incorrect treatment, or ultimately told it’s ‘all in their heads’.

So, the campaign ‘#MillionsMissing‘ was launched to try and address this. In support of the objectives of the campaign, activists and author Robert Saunders, who also writes under the surname McMullen, has taken the Dylan standard Blowin’ in the Wind and turned it into A song for METhe Canary caught up with Saunders, who has lived with severe ME for 26 years, to discuss the disease, Millions Missing and why Dylan’s message is relevant to the movement.

How many voices…

A song for ME describes what it’s like to be living with the disease. Saunders arranged, produced, and wrote the alternative lyrics to the song, as well as singing lead vocals on it. He also got 18 people living with ME from seven countries to sing on the chorus. Of these, Saunders said that Kaeley Pruitt-Hamm‘s vocal stood out so much he included it throughout the song.

A song for ME says:

How many voices must scream from the dark

Before you take heed of our cry?

The answer my friend

Is blowin’ in the wind;

The answer is blowin’ in the wind.

An accidental activist

Saunders told The Canary that the Millions Missing campaign’s objectives are “hugely important” to him. He is actively involved, saying it is the “sense of comradeship and solidarity” which he enjoys. But moreover he feels that despite his incapacity, he’s “contributing in some way” to things getting better:

Becoming an activist was the last thing I wanted to do. For many years I tried to ignore the politics and focus on other activities. But last year I read one or two things which made me realise how much worse the situation is for people with ME in terms of politics than I had realised. And ever since, I have felt compelled to do what I can to try to help to reverse that situation.

Led by #MEAction, the Millions Missing calls on governments and health bodies to:

  • Increase funding for research.
  • Carry out more clinical trials.
  • Provide better medical education.
  • Increase public awareness in relation to ME.


The campaign is extremely active online, constantly raising awareness. But for Saunders, Millions Missing is about more than just the objectives. He says that while social media and the internet “do have their negatives”, for him they are a “godsend”:

The campaign and its tools have given me and other people with ME a voice. It’s one that has been missing for too long. People who have been unable to leave their houses, bedrooms or beds for decades are finally being empowered. And now that we are starting to be seen and heard we will not be silenced until our demands for health equality are met.

It’s this which makes Dylan’s song such a pertinent choice in relation to the disease.

A civil rights issue?

Blowin’ in the Wind is viewed by many as a song about the civil rights movement in the US, as much as an anti-war anthem. As Saunders notes, the fight of the ME community is in itself a civil rights movement:

For decades ME patients have been subjected to mistreatment and neglect at the hands of the medical establishment. Progress in understanding has been inhibited by… misconceptions about the illness. But also by the dogmatic beliefs of a vociferous minority of mental health professionals.

I recently watched the film Suffragette and was struck by the parallels between that movement and ours. It was particularly noticeable to me how the suffragettes were smeared and persecuted by the establishment, just as ME campaigners have been.

Drawing parallels

What’s also of note with the ME civil rights movement is how it has drawn parallels with the HIV/AIDS campaigns of the 1980s and 1990s. #MEAction has extensively documented [pdf] how, and why, the HIV/AIDS campaigns were so effective, and what the ME community could learn from it. The group said [pdf, p5] of the HIV/AIDS campaign:

What struck us most was the power of the movement as a whole. The combination of the incredible force of each element and the drive behind every activist resulted in a movement that redefined not just the medical research paradigm, but also our national priorities.

The successes of the HIV/AIDS advocacy movement were the result of a unique moment in time when the illness and death of thousands of people catalysed action…

It also provides hope and shows what is possible even in the face of seemingly insurmountable odds.

Mistakes being made

Saunders believes that by applying this mantra, the ME community will eventually win the fight. But he also believes there are still obstacles to overcome:

When we look back now on the way in which women and HIV/AIDS sufferers were treated, along with people of different ethnicity, sexuality, disability and appearance, it seems utterly perverse. And yet, those same mentalities seem to reappear in different guises in different generations over and over again. Yesterday it was women with multiple sclerosis being diagnosed with ‘female hysteria’. Today it is people with ME. And tomorrow it will be some other undeserving victims of misfortune – unless we can learn from our mistakes.

But, as part two of this article will discuss, medical professionals and others have still not learned from their ‘mistakes’. One of the biggest of those being the notorious PACE trial.

Get Involved!

– Find out more about the Millions Missing campaign.

– Read The Canary‘s analysis of the PACE trial.


[1] 2018 May 12 The Canary Steve Topple Bob Dylan’s ‘Blowin’ in the Wind’ has been re-imagined for the ‘millions missing’: Part One

[2] You Tube A song for ME: Blowin’ in the Wind Lyrics Robert Saunders

[3] 2017 Jan 25 Amazon Sarah Myhill Diagnosis and Treatment of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Myalgic Encephalitis: It’s Mitochondria, Not Hypochondria

[4] 2017 Sept 7 Cathy Fox Blog Lack of Blogging

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Fiona Barnett appears to be OK. New Post on her Blog

Many were worried about Fiona Barnett, due to her social media silence for months.

Fiona of course drew pictures of her ritual abuse by Australian Prime Ministers amongst others and American President Nixon, and her post is easily the most popular post on my blog. My Story Fiona Barnett – “Hang on for the Ride”  [2]. Also From Fiona Barnett to Miley Cyrus  [3] illustrates mind control in Hollywood, a matter that is being recognised more and more.

This has just been posted on her blog, Pedophiles Down Under, the text of which I have also copied below. She has also posted a letter from Victim Services to her dated 2 May 2018.

2018 May 2 Pedophiles Down Under NSW Victim Services Collaborate with NSW Police to Bury Fiona Barnett’s VIP Pedophile Case [1]

Hi Supporters,

I’m alive. My ‘family’ and ‘friends’ tried to take me down, but unfortunately for them, I am a modern day Baruch. God has decided, against my better judgment, that my “life will I give unto thee for a prey in all places whither thou goest.” So, no matter what the child trafficking network throw at me – it is God who determines who lives and who dies.

Things were going well, until the network realised I was writing a book about the CIA’s involvement in child trafficking in Australia.

It seems Victim Services NSW, who previously supported me, have been told to bury my case. In 2014, NSW Victim Services ruled that on the balance of probabilities I was indeed abused by a pedophile network. However, they recently decided on the balance of probabilities that I had not been a victim of a pedophile ring. Hmmmm, what an odd contradiction… Since I went off social media, and since I lost my voice as a victim, NSW Victim Services think they can screw me over?

Here is my response to NSW Victim Services’ dodgy findings. I’ve whited out my case manager’s name, and the names of my therapists, for now. If citizens can be bothered protesting the silence of witnesses against the Australian government’s involvement in child sex trafficking, and if you would like to see my expose published, then support me by lodging lodge your complaints with:

Victim Services Commissioner, Mahashini Krishna, email:

Here’s me letter to Victim Services:

Internal Review Request

I request an internal review of the decision regarding my Victims Support, plus a review of Victim Service’s mishandling of my case since I registered with them.

I have been denied due process by Victim Services.

I asked in writing that all correspondence with me go via [my Victim Services allocated counsellor’s] office. Victims Services acknowledged this fact in subsequent correspondence.

However, the letter dated 3 April from Mahashini Krishna titled ‘Victim Support for FIONA BARNETT’ Ref 198004S was posted to the address at 26 Laura St.

Victim Services were informed months prior to 3 April that I vacated and sold 26 Laura Street over a year ago.

Consequently, I did not receive the letter dated 3 April from Mahashini Krishna titled ‘Victim Support for FIONA BARNETT’ Ref 198004S.

I finally received the said letter on Sunday 29 April 2018 – 28 calendar days past the appeal time limit.

I request an answer to the following:

  • Why was such an important letter sent to an address that Victim Services knew I had not lived at for over a year?
  • And, why was this letter not posted via [my Victim Services allocated counsellor’s] office as requested?

Victims Services never informed me that my application for support was in the process of being assessed and finalised.

I have never been given the opportunity to include all relevant supporting documentation.

I have never been given support by Victim Services staff in the preparation of my application for Support.

For every phone conversation I had with Victim Services staff since 2014, the entire / or crucial parts of these conversations have not been documented. I requested this be rectified. It was not.

The last time Victim Services staff [Senior Case Manager] spoke to me about this claim for financial support, it was via phone over two years ago, [Senior case manager] apologised to me for the debacle previous Victim Services staff had made of my case, and promised to: “make it up to” me, assist me with preparation of my application for financial support, work with me to divide my child abuse history into multiple claims so that I could get the maximum financial support, and told me that she would consult me during her preparation of my claim, keep me informed of its progress and status, and advise me of what further documentation I needed to submit. This never happened.

Instead, Victim Services stonewalled me for over two years. [Senior Case Manager] and the other case managers to whom my case was continually shuffled, ignored my phone calls and emails, and did not record the content of my phone calls. For example, last year I spent 45 minutes making a phone application for another separate incident on an island in the Hawksbury River, but all record of this conversation and application was wiped/lost.

The last time I communicated with Victim Services, it was with Peta Blood in the presence of [my Victim Services allocated counsellor]. Victim Services took a call from my therapist. They transferred the call to [Senior Case Manager]. [Senior Case Manager] refused to talk with me in front of [my Victim Services allocated counsellor]. [Senior Case Manager] spoke to me, and cut the call short, in a manner that surprised my therapist and left him with the impression that my case was being buried by Victim Services. [Senior Case Manager] made promises to me during this call which she never followed up on.

During that call with [Senior Case Manager], and in previous communication with Victim Services, I complained about the Sutherland Police in charge of the investigation into my allegations against my step-grandfather, and the chain of multiple offenders to which he passed me.

I complained to Victim Services that Sutherland police were violating my rights as a victim.

I made 4 days of witness statements to police in Tweed Heads (in 2014) and Sydney (in 2015). Sutherland Police informed me that they would travel to Tweed Heads in January 2016 and collect another 5 days of witness statements from me.

Sutherland police never took further statements from me. Instead, they stonewalled me, refused to take my calls, refused to return my calls, and ignored my emails. I informed Peta Blood and Victim Services of this. I asked Victim Services for assistance with this.

My rights under the Charter of Victims Rights have been violated, by Sutherland Police and by Victim Services staff.

Page 2 of [Assessor’s] Assessment states, “Police records indicate that statements obtained from Ms Barnett in May 2014, and that no further investigation was being carried out.” [Assessor’s] statement is, by omission, misleading and untrue. It does not mention the further 2 days of witness statements I made in Sydney in 2015 which I submitted to Victim Services. It also does not mention the investigation that Sutherland Police did commence, nor the outcome of that investigation.

Why did [the Assessor] not mention the 2015 police witness statements?

Why did [the [Assessor] not mention the investigation that Sutherland Police commenced in December 2015?

Sutherland Police began conducting investigations into my reported crimes prior to taking the further 5 days of witness statements from me. I know this because witnesses to this contacted me and informed me. Witnesses told me that Sutherland Police door knocked and interviewed residents of McAlister Ave, Engadine. They raided the residence of 14 McAlister Ave with cadaver dogs. They found etchings in the glass windows of external buildings at that residence, of the exact banner that I drew in my initial police statements.

Sutherland Police failed to provide me with information and updates about their investigation of the crimes I reported; which constitutes a violation of the Charter of Victims Rights. It is Victim Service staff job to ensure my rights are being upheld, yet when I complained about police withholding information about their investigation to [Senior Case Manager] in front of my therapist, I was cut short and treated with disrespect.

[The Assessor’s] report omits important information regarding my medical history. These omissions, and the choice of words in the report, paint me as mentally ill for no good reason, and serves only to discredit me and my case.

[The Assessor] does not mention the direct link between my PTSD and child abuse, and self-harming behaviour and child abuse, as documented in my hospital records in the 1990s.

For example, no reference was made to the Gold Coast hospital files, and if Victim Services never had access to these files, no letter was sent to me informing me of this. I only received a letter stating that my Bundaberg hospital files had been destroyed. Doctors Flanagan and Nevin Taylor specifically recorded in my Gold Coast hospital files the words “Satanic Ritual Abuse” and my having notified them of being abused by multiple members of pedophile rings.

As a further example, I know from documented meetings with NSW Health Dept staff that my Tweed Heads psychiatric hospital file was removed from the public hospital by a psychiatrist named Dr Braganza and taken with him to his private practise. This file contains my documented child abuse reporting. I informed Victim Services of this.

Why did Victim Services not request these files from Dr Braganza or send me a release form to sign?

I note that Victim Services previously assessed my case based only on the hospital files they had at the time and concluded on the balance of probabilities that what I reported to the Royal Commission and Victim Services did in fact happen.

On what basis did [the Assessor] contradict Victim Services’ original conclusion that on the balance of probabilities that I was indeed abused by a pedophile ring?

[The Assessor] lumped my many abuse experiences at the hands of different individuals into ‘pedophile ring’. When in fact I was initially abused by my step-grandfather, separate to any pedophile ring. My step-grandfather later passed me on to members of a child trafficking network, who in turn passed me on to another ring of members of a child abuse network. Therefore, my abuse cannot be lumped under one incident titled ‘pedophile ring.’ There are multiple individuals and rings involved.

I request that my case be divided into different claims, and that the abuse I experienced by my step-grandfather be treated independent of that by a pedophile ring.

Do I need a lawyer? Could / would my claim have been / be more successful if I had / have legal representation? [Senior case manager] informed me that I did not need a lawyer and that she would assist me. This assistance was never given to me.

What documents do I need to provide to improve my chances of a successful financial support claim? What is lacking? What is missing?

What impact does the failure of Sutherland Police failure to adhere to the Charter of Victims Right have on the outcome of my claim for financial support?

What other steps can / will Victims Services take to facilitate my case and claim for financial support?

What else do I need to know from Victim Services? What have I not been told regarding my case and claim?

What is Victim Services going to do about their having stonewalled me for the past 2 years?

What is Victim Services going to do about the Sutherland Police having stonewalled me since I made the 4 days of witness statements?


Fiona Barnett

30 April 2018

P.S., Doctor WARICK MIDDLETON, (so-called ‘DID’ expert at Belmont Private Hospital in Brisbane), who says ritual abuse testimonies are ‘metaphors’ –  I know what you tried to do to me via Lucinda Batram / Ella Forbes & Co. You, maggot, are what Corydon Hammond called, a “Dirty Doctor” in his Greenbaum Speech. Like I said to Antony Kidman – I will be your downfall.

Here’s a screen shot of a letter, to validate my claim:

VS Internal Review Letter

vs-internal-review-letter copy on cathyfox blog  wordpress

  • The Sanctuary for the Abused [A] has advice on how to prevent triggers.
  • National Association for People Abused in Childhood [B] has a freephone helpline and has links to local support groups.
  • One in Four [C]
  • Havoca [D].
  • Useful post on Triggers [E]  from SurvivorsJustice [F] blog.
  • Jim Hoppers pages on Mindfulness [G]  and Meditation [H] may be useful.
  • Hwaairfan blog An Indigenous Australian Approach to Healing Trauma  [J]
  • Survivors UK for victims and survivors of male rape or the sexual abuse of men [K]
  • Voicing CSA group [L] helps arrange survivors meetings in your area
  • A Prescription for me blog Various emotional support links [M]
  • Fresh Start Foundation Scottish not for profit group, helping child sexual abuse victims & survivors  [N]


[1] 2018 May 2 Pedophiles Down Under NSW Victim Services Collaborate with NSW Police to Bury Fiona Barnett’s VIP Pedophile Case

[2] 2015 Nov 30 cathy fox blog My Story Fiona Barnett – “Hang on for the Ride”

[3] 2015 Dec 18 cathy fox blog From Fiona Barnett to Miley Cyrus

Let justice be done though the heavens fall – Fiat justitia ruat cælum

Pedophiles Down Under

Hi Supporters,

I’m alive. My ‘family’ and ‘friends’ tried to take me down, but unfortunately for them, I am a modern day Baruch. God has decided, against my better judgment, that my “life will I give unto thee for a prey in all places whither thou goest.” So, no matter what the child trafficking network throw at me – it is God who determines who lives and who dies.

Things were going well, until the network realised I was writing a book about the CIA’s involvement in child trafficking in Australia.

It seems Victim Services NSW, who previously supported me, have been told to bury my case. In 2014, NSW Victim Services ruled that on the balance of probabilities I was indeed abused by a pedophile network. However, they recently decided on the balance of probabilities that I had not been a victim of a pedophile ring. Hmmmm, what an…

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The “Skin of the Gods!” #TheCabal’s Obsession with GOLD!

Yet another depth that even the most experienced child abuse researchers may not have expected – gold plated, roasted dead children and foetuses.

On this one Q researchers overlap with child abuse researchers to reveal, what to most will be unimaginable happenings.

At some time in the journey down the obscene rabbit hole of child abuse you have to face up to the the powers that be being into ritual abuse. I suspect this is another example..

This is copied from Neon Revolts blog and is available here. This is just a cut and paste so the formatting may not be good but you can check the original here 2018 Apr 18 Neon Revolt  The “Skin of the Gods!” #TheCabal’s Obsession with GOLD! #QAnon #GreatAwakening [1]

The “Skin of the Gods!” #TheCabal’s Obsession with GOLD! #QAnon #GreatAwakening

Legionaries – I’m not going to lie – this one is going to be rough.

Fair warning, this post contains pictures of dead children. They look like movie props, and have clearly been dead for a very long time, to the point where they’re basically mummified, but if that’s going to be upsetting to you, leave now.

Okay, getting in to it – we’ll review some old #QAnon posts from back in November:

So even if we don’t know what #TheCabal’s does with all that gold, they’re clearly obsessed with it for some reason.

Next, I want you to read this #CDAN post.

(Since I have a lot of new followers, for those who don’t know, CDAN stands for Crazy Days and Nights. It’s a blog run by a very-high-up Entertainment lawyer who has basically been spilling the beans for the past few years, disclosing all these secrets and misdeeds. Frankly, I don’t know how he’s still alive).

Anyway, he published this today.

Other “goods?” That’s a very strange choice of words.

Well, Legionaries… here comes the heartbreak.

Last chance to look away.

A British citizen in Bangkok has been arrested after Thai police found six roasted human foetuses packed in his luggage.

The Independent The Independent

More photos have found their way online, since:



I’ve been made aware of soooooo much more since I published this.

Here’s what I found out.

Actually… Screw it. @ did an amazing job with this, so I’m just going to copy his tweets verbatim here:

1) This #CDAN blind looks solved & exposes yet another sicko crime network, this time #SoutheastAsia. It connects several interesting items to #QAnon #crumbs. Don’t eat while reading. Lets unravel it.

2) Starting with the country in question, it’s #Laos. This is the Kings Romans Casino in a remote corner of Laos. Matches the #blind. Poverty? Dead poor. Ranks 9 of 10 in the region, and #135 globally. More about the casino…

3) The blind says that “about a decade ago” it was funded. See below, the lease with the government was signed in 2007, that fits. It’s a 99 year lease. And the government gets a 20% cut. Ding ding ding.

4) So we’ve established this is definitely the place, now the illegal activities & how we can tie this back to #Qanon. An exhaustive article (nice work Simon Parry & @SCMP_News) on this disgusting place:

Link card:

Mystery surrounds business empire with office in Hong Kong accused by US authorities of running an international criminal organisation in a small corner of Laos

South China Morning Post South China Morning Post

5) #Prostitution? Check. Child Prostitution? Check. #Drugs? Check. #EndangeredSpecies trafficking? Check. See below. The first line highlighted. Who is the Zhao Wei crime network?

6) The Zhao Wei crime network is a transnational criminal organization & names two registered Hong Kong companies under the Kings Romans Group as corporate fronts headed by Zhao and Su Guiqin, who looks like one nasty woman. Note the circle around #Thailand. Come back to that.

7) So this Nat Rungtawamkhiri is the Thai arm of this #cabal, and at first glance you’d have to assume drugs, of course. And while probably true, there’s more. Time to link this to #Qanon posts. If you are eating, stop. In the next tweet are fetuses and babies up to 7 mos old.

8) Not just babies. They have been roasted in some manner, and then covered in gold leaf. For attentive #Anons, this will ring a bell. This is horrific to look at, but this is our world. “Other goods” from the #CDAN #blind.

(Note from Neon: You saw the pics above. I don’t need to repost them here).

9) What’s the backstory? Here is our sicko. #British citizen, caught trying to smuggle them from #Thailand. Probably a mule.

(Note from Neon: And then he includes the same story from The Independent that I linked to earlier in the article)

10) Ready for the outrage to hit 11? For smuggling these for a “black magic services website”, he can face A YEAR in prison. A YEAR. Deserves the #DeathPenalty.

11) Ok, so #Qanon. Gold. #England is one of the homes of the #Cabal. Remember these #Q drops about gold? Those are the #Rothschilds, when they hosted a “surrealist” party. Then in another post talks about “skin of the gods” and how it was often used to craft objects.

(Note from Neon: These next few posts include line analysis of Q’s drops at the top of this article)

12) The sun god Ra. Skin of gold. See #Qanon post below. “Many governments of the world feed the ‘Eye.’

13) Who could possibly be doing this? Well in the 3rd #Q drop, it says (Y) What does it mean to be covered in gold… the Y being a reference to the goat here, or #Baphomet. I would venture those babies were going to be used in a #SATANIC ritual.

14) A “triangle has (3) sides”. In #Laos, do you know where the Kings Romans casino is located? An area called the “Golden Triangle economic zone, Where Laos, #Thailand, and #Myanmar share a border (3) countries.

15) So we have a piece of the #cabal engaged in horrific activities. I can only imagine the horrors these victims of this network endure. We have to #ExposeAllEvil, because we know 👇THEY wont. #MSM #FakeNews #FakeNewsMediaOh, now you can finish your sandwich.

Addendum: Missed connection pointed out to me 👉endangered game hunting, parties eating these animals (like tigers). #pedovore angle here is disturbing but well within realm of possibility considering this place seems to have no limitations… by design. A depravity playground.

And that’s where @OnWithLogic’s tweet-stream ends.

How’s that for a rabbit hole?


  • The Sanctuary for the Abused [A] has advice on how to prevent triggers.
  • National Association for People Abused in Childhood [B] has a freephone helpline and has links to local support groups.
  • One in Four [C]
  • Havoca [D].
  • Useful post on Triggers [E]  from SurvivorsJustice [F] blog.
  • Jim Hoppers pages on Mindfulness [G]  and Meditation [H] may be useful.
  • Hwaairfan blog An Indigenous Australian Approach to Healing Trauma  [J]
  • Survivors UK for victims and survivors of male rape or the sexual abuse of men [K]
  • Voicing CSA group [L] helps arrange survivors meetings in your area
  • A Prescription for me blog Various emotional support links [M]
  • Fresh Start Foundation Scottish not for profit group, helping child sexual abuse victims & survivors  [N]


[1] 2018 Apr 18 Neon Revolt  The “Skin of the Gods!” #TheCabal’s Obsession with GOLD! #QAnon #GreatAwakening

[2] 2012 May 18 Independent  Briton arrested in Thailand after being found with six roasted human foetuses

Let justice be done though the heavens fall – Fiat justitia ruat cælum


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Wanted Pedo – Peter Righton’s Network

This post is reposted from a French site Wanted Pedo, and the link for this article is 2018 Feb 18 Wanted Pedo 2018 Feb 18 Wanted Pedo Les réseaux pédocriminels n’existent pas | Round 32 | Réseau Righton  [3].

As I have copy and pasted, for speed, some pictures have not transferred. It may be better to view the original and get your browser to translate. (Chrome from the data monster Google does this, I am not aware if other browsers can do it).

Much of the article comes from 2014 Aug 17 Malta Independent Evidence of ‘organised abuse’ and ‘trade’ of young boys in Gozo resurfaces  [4] but as I wish to bring attention to the Wanted Pedo site, I have used that version, even though the retranslation may not be perfect. Wanted Pedo reblogged it from [2] 2018 Feb 13 Ax de la Resistance Les réseaux pédocriminels n’existent pas | Réseau Righton

I post this for several reasons.

  • It is an interesting article in itself about Peter Righton.
  • A different culture and different country give a new perspective on stories
  • We must begin to make more international links to combat the child abusers
  • To bring others attention to the French site Wanted Pedo which has many interesting articles particularly in the Les réseaux pédocriminels n’existent pas series – Child Abuser Networks Don’t Exist series

If anyone has a list of European anti child abuse sites, please could you send it to me – or anyone with any European sites and I will compile and publish a list.


Here is the article


Evidence of “international pedophile networks”and “child prostitution” resurface in Gozo (Malta)

British Social Services Department-labeled evidence of “organized youth abuse” and “trade” of young victims in Malta and Gozo resurfaces after more than two decades following allegations by whistleblower about pedophile network of elite “which would have more than 20 prominent members of the British parliament, the judiciary, and even religious figures.

Evidence of organized abuse and trafficking of young boys in Gozo, and possibly Malta.

Acts mostly perpetrated between the 1970s and the early 1990s, resurfacing in the form of a leak of a “strictly confidential” report from 1993 issued by the social services department of Hereford and Worcester (Formerly a British County)

A report mysteriously buried at the time, probably by unknown people, in positions of authority in the United Kingdom.

In 1992, a certain Peter Righton was charged and found guilty of possessing what was described as “obscene literature” in connection with children and boys under 16 years of age.

The “literature” in question was actually pictures of naked boys.

During the investigation, the police and customs department raided Righton and confiscated “a very large amount of material”, including letters, diaries, photographs, magazines and videos.

According to the report, “Righton accumulated a large number of letters and documents and there are several letterboxes that explain with chronological details how Righton and some of his associates have been in contact for several years, and the interest very clear that they showed to abuse young boys.

Among the correspondences discovered during the investigation, there is overwhelming evidence of a pedophile organization in Gozo and possibly in Malta.


Written evidence of abuse and trafficking of young boys in Malta

According to the “strictly confidential” report of 1993:

“Among Righton’s cases there is also written evidence of links with the PIE in Sweden and Norway, as well as organized abuse of young boys in Gozo and Malta.

Righton and Napier are involved in the “trafficking” of young victims in the latter country. ”

“PIE” refers to the “Peadophile Information Exchange”, which campaigned to legalize sex with children as young as 4 years old.

Righton was known as 51 member of PIE

The redacted name would likely be that of Righton’s former partner, who for legal reasons should be named Richard Napier.

A BBC documentary “Inside Story: The Secret Life of a Paedophile” exposes the sordid history of Righton’s crimes against childhood.

It is documented in this report how:

They regularly spent holidays together in the Mediterranean, where they solicited the company of local boys.

At the time this social services report was written, the written evidence of abuses in Gozo and Malta must have touched the nerve of the social services department of Hereford and Worcester, which gave the abuse of Malta great importance as first tangible mention of abuse emanating from this correspondence.

This evidence of abuses committed in Gozo and Malta is stored by the West Mercia Police to this day, and the Maltese police should have good reason to request access.

There are currently seven boxes of letters between Righton and other pedophiles that have been confiscated from his home.

The cover-up and the new investigation

The whistleblower Peter McKelvie, a former child protection officer from the Hereford and Worcester Social Services Department who wrote the “strictly confidential” 1993 report, triggered a police investigation in 2012 when revealed that seven letter boxes containing evidence of a powerful pedophile network existed, including letters between Righton and other pedophiles, stored at the West Mercia Police.

And Righton was not an ordinary sex offender.

He has been a respected and respected figure in the field of children’s homes, and a former consultant to the National Children’s Bureau charity, whose patrons included the then Minister of Health, Virginia Bottomley.

After the Righton descent in 1992, Virginia Bottomley declared herself “shocked” and asked for a full report.

This was the last time Bottomley spoke of this story, and no report was ever published.

Mr. McKelvie expressed his concerns to Labor MP Tom Watson, who raised the issue in Parliament in 2012.

According to Mr. McKelvie, who has spent many years working to see the truth unveiled:

We still do not know who gave the order to end the first investigation.

In my opinion this person is as guilty as Peter Righton and his network of child abusers.

The decision to stop it was probably made by Michael Howard and / or Virginia Bottomley.

Howard was Minister of the Interior at the time, with overall responsibility for the police, and Bottomley was Minister of Health, with overall responsibility for children’s homes and social work.

Mr. McKelvie was actually the source for Mr. Watson’s parliamentary question and he was also involved in the BBC documentary that exposed Righton 20 years earlier.

Mr McKelvie recently stated,

At the time of the arrest in 1992 for possessing indecent images of children, Peter Righton was about to take on jobs for the Department of Health as a child protection expert.

He has long been at the top of the profession in social work and in positions as an advisor to the National Children’s Bureau, Director of Education at the National Institute of Social Work, and Senior Lecturer at the Open University on practices in the field. social work.

A BBC (Inside Story) documentary from 1994 shines the spotlight on Righton, a wolf in sheep’s clothing, a dangerous pedophile predator with relationships that in his lifetime abused children in the UK, Sweden, Malta , in Denmark and Holland.

20 well-known people in a “privileged pedophile network”

Renewed appeals for investigations appeared again last month after Mr McKelvie claimed that up to 20 prominent British public figures belong to a privileged pedophile network.

Judges, nobles and MPs are among those 20 prominent figures who have been abusing children for decades, according to a former child protection officer.

He told the British press that there is binding evidence of former politicians to a so-called pedophile ring, and Lord Warner, a former health minister, said the allegations were credible.

The former child protection officer from Hereford and Worcester County said:

I believe there is solid evidence, and information that could be turned into evidence if it is studied properly.

Evidence that there have been very powerful privileged people at the peaks of the political classes, since as long as I am alive.

There have been sufficient reasons to investigate this regularly for the past 30 years, and there has always been blockage, concealment and collusion to prevent this from happening.

We look to the Lords, the Commons, the judiciary – all institutions where there would have been a small percentage of pedophiles, and a slightly larger number of people who knew but did nothing for reasons of self-interest, self-preservation or political party, it was safer to cover the case than to treat it, “he told the BBC

I would say we are talking about more than 20 people, and a larger number of people who knew and did nothing, who were in a position to do something.

Righton died without having to face a correctional court for the misuse of dozens of boys, abuses that he recorded with sordid details in his diaries, entitled “Some Boys”.

Today, many questions remain unanswered about how Righton has escaped justice all his life.

The same questions arise for Savile, Sir Ciryl Smith and Sir Peter Morrison.

That’s why survivors and activists urgently call for an independent inquiry into organized networks of abuse of the most vulnerable children in our society by powerful individuals.

The extent of Righton’s abuses would involve rapes, beatings, young boys being passed between pedophiles “like pieces of meat,” according to Mr. McKelvie.

In the 1980s, children’s homes served as a “food chain” for child abuse and were targeted by “people in power,” he said.

Sexual abuse of children is a power dynamic, it is often what it is.

What I am suggesting is that powerful, authoritative people, especially communities who sometimes have access to children’s homes, are possible.

I had to fire two managers of children’s homes … for abusing children in their care.

British Home Secretary Theresa May announced two new investigations.

Political parties and MI5 will have their files scrutinized amidst allegations of child abuse by politicians, while BBC and religious organizations should fall under the mandate of another major investigation to find out if those in power have turned a blind eye to statements of abuse.

Lord Warner said the interior minister must “clean the Augias stables” in order to maintain public confidence in the establishment.

Righton died in 2007, at the age of 81, he in all and for all to pay a fine of 900 pounds sterling (1.000 euros) for possession of child pornography.

But many of his victims still live with their traumatic memories, in Malta and Gozo, possibly elsewhere in the Mediterranean and in the United Kingdom.

The BBC story “Inside Story” where Peter Righton appears to be seen here:

In this documentary we clearly see through the photos, letters and videos seized a number of other pedophiles involved in this Network Righton.

Peter Righton (whose real name is Pedro Santos) began his pedophile career in the 1950s at a public high school for boys in Oxford, where he was a supervisor and chaplain.

In 1957, he became an English teacher at the Red Hills Boarding School for Difficult Boys in Maidstone, Kent.

His room adjoins those of the boys.

Alan Rimmer a former colleague testifies:

There were many boys and colleagues who complained of awkward behavior and strange rituals Righton had with the children.

He had activities in his room with boys that had nothing to do with the usual activities practiced in the school at that time.

I remember running errands where Righton chases the students and whose goal was to put shaving foam in their pants.

Things like that.

Righton is described as very close to the youngest boys.

Mark Fulles, one of them testifies:

You had to go to Peter’s room, lie on the bed, to get a cigarette.

He used me to wash his car and in exchange I was allowed to leave the establishment by going for a drive with him.

Then I had to clean his room.

Then when he thought I was flexible enough to go in his direction, he offered me more and more things.

After I finished washing his car late at night, he paid me an ice cream and then he took me swimming in a pond.

He arrived in his napkin then when my turn came to change he undressed me to change me.

When we got home we went to Righton’s room and he came and went naked on his bed.

There he masturbated to ejaculate. Then it started again and either he masturbated me or I had to masturbate.

It was something that could happen up to six times a week.

I was 12 years old. I was terrified.

I was gradually enlisted by Righton to recruit other boys to do the small jobs for Righton.

He asked me if that one he had spotted would be good to do the job, in fact he asked me implicitly if the boy would be in my opinion ready to do the same things as me.

I knew there were other boys who were being abused like me by Righton because they told me, there were at least 6 of them.

Since I can not have normal relations with people especially with men or with people in positions of authority.

I can not express myself and I retract very quickly in my shell.

My wife supports me a lot but I think I could have had a really happy life without all that.

Righton writes quite consciously in his diary:

It’s a crime for a 37-year-old man to have sex with a 15-year-old boy.

Shortly after the facts began to circulate among students and colleagues.

There was even a police investigation … which was abandoned for “lack of evidence”.

Two colleagues had made reports and accusations to the Warden.

Righton denied saying the rumors were unfounded.

It is still pushed to the exit without making waves under a “gentlemen agreement”.

He was able to continue his pedophile career in education, no action has been taken by management of any kind.

These are psychological empowerment techniques for children who lack affection and are quickly caught in the situations in which they find themselves and can not escape.

They feel dirty, lost, confused, degraded, soiled.

In English this is called “grooming”, analyzes a child psychiatrist

Fulles went to meet for the report Righton who affirmed “that after Red Hills he had all his life made sure not to put himself in a situation where he was in a position to abuse children”.

The following will prove the opposite and will highlight this pathological liar and dangerous sexual predator on minors who was a national reference in all the administrations of the country on the subject of child care home.

Barely a month later he was again with boys he raped.

Righton kept lists of his prey in a booklet called “Some Boys” that lasted more than 30 years, and there were 28 children in Red Hill and in all over a hundred names of children aged 12 to 16 years old in all the places where he lived, where he went on vacation.

In 1965 he joined the team of “Kylian University” where he made a name for himself in the world of social research in child protection and where he trained generations of social workers.

There is a network of friends and relations in the establishment and the world of social assistance

He discusses his prey with a visibly pedophile friend, John Neale, and Righton’s lover.

In 1968, Righton became Senior Lecturer at the National Institute for Social Work (NISW), an institution that advises and helps policy makers design and reform national policies and practices in the field of child protection.

In 1971, Righton joined the team of a National Children’s Bureau (NCB) based in Islington.

Islington is one of the London neighborhoods where there was a huge pedophile VIP network that stocked up in orphanages (including the Lambeth district).

The NCB also had an office in Belfast where there was also a huge VIP pedophile network, the Cairns-Born Again Network, which mingled IRA’s high-profile personalities with so-called sworn loyalists.

There he was leading a team that had to work directly with the children.

The atmosphere was “liberation of manners” (liberation of perverts at the same time) and Righton made his “coming out” as a homosexual.

He allows himself more and more things.

Ann Goldie, a retired social worker who has been in contact with Righton testifies:

The climate of the time included the fact that the children were sexual and could possibly justify sex with people considerably older than them.

I think I have never been totally in agreement with that but there is a part of me that has been mentally prepared to be convinced by this kind of theory

But with the years I have been confronted and I had to acknowledge the suffering caused to child victims by pedophile sexual abuse.

Righton told me that during his fieldwork he had himself had sex with 8 or 9 boys.

He loved and was very good at manipulating prepubescent boys, and managed to get to have sex with them while remaining friendly, sympathetic and even somehow appreciated by one or two of the kids as one might be as than godfather.

I was secretly a lesbian, he knew I was, and he thought I would be loyal to him because he had this information.

So I did not do anything to stop him, no, I did not do anything.

Righton then lived openly with Richard, a young man he had first abused as a child.

From now on Richard also rapes children and they both regularly spend holidays in the Mediterranean for sex tourism (in Malta in particular but also in Greece, Turkey, etc).

In London they share an apartment that allows them to meet each other boys who they violated until then each on their side.

Righton is then known enough to be promoted to Senior Lecturer in a well-known “Barnardo’s” organization that cares for disabled children, victims of sexual abuse, children with psychiatric disorders and homeless children in projects involving more of 115,000 children.

This gives him new access to boys, he is named director of a school for disabled children where his lover Richard is a teacher.

He meets a single mother with a son who is interested.

Righton shows him attention, asks him what he thinks, he is kind, nice.

He takes her to the pool with Richard, who tries to catch him to swing him in the water like a game that can be done with his father.

Then he takes her where he no longer has foot, holds it with one hand and the other puts his hand in his swimsuit.

He struggles, swims to the brink, gets out of the water, changes himself and says he wants to go home.

I was in the car, crying just asking myself: Why?

Why did he do that ?

What did I do for him to do that to me?

I was 12 years old at the time and I trusted him.

Maybe it was my fault, that I was too much of a friend with him, too kind.

At 15, I started doing karate, bodybuilding, anything to become stronger so that no one could ever abuse me again.

I can not forgive myself, not feel guilty for having accepted all these gifts, these cigarettes, these travels and in filigree there was always something else.

These big black clouds follow me since Red Hills, it’s the depressive decor of my life that I can not get rid of.

He never complained.

A few months later Richard is arrested for touching a child in a cinema in Scotland.

Shortly after Righton wrote a letter of recommendation to support Richard’s candidacy for a teaching position at another school.

Righton is now Director of Training at NISW training social workers.

He is also at that time close friend of a pedophile already convicted Charles Napier.

Both are active activists of the Pedophile Information Exchange (PIE), a group that was in the media and claimed the legalization of sex from 4 years.

Napier was the treasurer.

He had even programmed a computer game (in the 70s!) Whenanswering questions a child was doing a striptease with a series of photos that followed one another.

Napier was a teacher but had been banned from practice in the United Kingdom after being convicted of sexually assaulting 5 of his students.

In 1978, he obtained a post of English teacher at a school in Sweden with children aged 11 and over.

He reports his progress, techniques and advances in his attempts to rape children.

He gives them his address on a paper when he meets them in the street, inviting them to come to his home.

He notes precisely which class goes to the pool which day.

A student Nicolas passes by himself which allows him to sexually assault him.

He offers alcohol and cigarettes, encourages him to have sex, etc.

Righton comes to see him for the holidays and also rapes boys.

In 1980, Napier candidate at the Ministry of Education to become a teacher with children.

Righton in a letter bearing NISW Director’s Head Support his candidacy by saying:

Napier no longer constitutes a risk of sexual abuse for dependent children

In the early 1980s, Righton co-authored the “Barkley report” which defined the guidelines for social workers in the United Kingdom for the coming decade.

He starts his own business as an expert consultant in child protection and is very much in demand.

It is charged by the “Open University” (national monopoly of distance education) to lead a team to set up a comprehensive training for social workers on child protection and child care.

He participated in the book “Perspectives on Paedophilia” directed by Brian Taylor ($ 130 on Ebay!) Affirming with all the arrogant self-confidence of the pseudoscientist:

Pedophilia is natural and normal for men.

He says he relies on interviews with 67 pedophiles and 40 male victims of pedophiles.

Far from being hurt by sex, boys can benefit.

He concludes :

I can certify that children do not need to be protected from sex of any kind with an adult.

One of his friends, child psychiatrist Morris Fraser, writes the following chapter.

He has a habit of offering cruises on his sailboat to poor children.

In 1988 in Cornwall, he founded the Azimuth Trust, which in just over three years shipped more than a hundred children.

This is to put in relation with the Yachtmen, the orphanages of Jersey or the boat school of which he was a member and from which he was inspired.

A specific report (below) has been written about this association is its activities.

In 1993, a television report was also produced on the Azimuth Trust and Morris Fraser.

He selected children in difficulty, who spoke badly and who lacked parental and especially paternal affection.

He seemed like all the other boys very excited and having fun.

Fraser was also at that time publisher and he published a magazine with pictures of these naked children on the boat.

Subscribers and patrons of the magazine were friends of Fraser: Righton and other members of the PIE.



This was done in the company of Robert Johnson, a teacher since 1971, he was even promoted to a teacher training center in 1973.

Charges of physical and sexual violence had been made by several children but despite the support of social workers informed, the various charges had been buried by the ” County Council ” (sort of departmental council with many responsibilities).

He had a blame and the ban on boarding children on his boat …

There had already been a colleague at another school early in his career.

In 1990, he was even promoted director of the “Roseland Center” of Truro thanks to his “very good reputation”.

Fraser and Johnson met on “school by boat” and replicated the project in England, forgetting to include the rapes on the sailors children obviously.

They advertised to social workers and struggling families, and then Fraser and Johnson selected children who seemed “fit” for them based on a questionnaire and family visits.

This questionnaire is recognized by child psychologists as being able to clearly identify vulnerable children who can easily be sexually abused.

They sometimes left for long journeys of several weeks.

Johnson was convicted of raping minors in 1995.


Fraser was taking children from Azimuth to her apartment in Islington, London.

There, on the first floor, he had a very large room with a king-size bed, but he usually slept in a small room next door.

This room was used to rape children and to stage these rapes, testifies a boy become adult.

Another time he took the same boy to the country for a weekend where he raped him with two other men.

They also took pictures of him naked for 5 pounds (6 euros).

Sentenced in 1972, he lived in the 90s in Southampton.

He was still practicing child psychiatry at a Southampton hospital, the Royal South Hants Hospital, and was in daily contact with vulnerable children.

When this was discovered (thanks to the TV) he was fired …

then re-employed externally full-time as consultant psychiatrist.

Another founder of Azimuth Trust (Robert Johnson) was jailed for viosl on minors, he was not worried.

Many letters found prove that Fraser had links with pedophiles in Spain, France, Switzerland and the USA.

In fact, Fraser was also the link between the boys of Cornwall and London pedophile circles in which he brought them back.

Napier was one of those circles that were none other than members of the PIE and other pedophiles who gravitated around.

At that moment Napier back from Sweden buys a house on a Thames island that quickly becomes a place of debauchery and gang rapes for many pedophiles (including Peter Righton) and child victims.

A child then aged 12 testifies:

We had to barricade ourselves in the room to prevent them from raping us, and then they always managed to enter.

There were other groups of children who went to other pedophile homes.

Among them David Bloomfield, another IEP member, was a director of the Standing Conference on Science and Technology.

David Bloomfield and Charles Napier

He resigned after being convicted of possession of child pornography.

These children were also going to Righton’s home who was paying them things, without rushing them and coming to his ends.

In 1987, Righton again became director of an internship for “troubled children” where he hired Richard as a teacher.

The school’s policy encouraged parents not to come and see their children.

It was not until the end of the year that many mothers discovered the horror:

I go up to see my son in his room and he was the pants in the ankle masturbating.

He was 10 years old.

The kids were supposed to be safe there.

These men should be jailed for what they did.

Another testifies:

My child told me that Richard was coming to his room, pulling the curtains and then masturbating in front of him and saying, “That’s the way we do it.”

He says that after they had to do it to each other and other things that happened there and he still did not want to tell me.

It’s disgusting what happened, really disgusting.

No investigation was conducted following these very serious charges of several boys.

In 1990, an 8-year-old boy at the time testified that he and several other boys of the same age were raped by a group of men up to 5 times a week.

He could only reveal this “secret” once his family moved.

He talked about videos, rapes, money given for that, and trips around the country to other men who raped them as well.

There were also two girls aged 8-9 who were also raped.

It lasted for him more than a whole year and it had to continue for the others who stayed.

The boy led the police in front of a house and said, “This is where it was.”

He gave a precise description of the interior of Righton’s house.

He recognized Peter Righton in a picture saying that he was the organizer where it was done.

The boy continued to say he felt guilty.

Finally he retracted because he was terrified.

In 1991, Righton launched its largest project, The Chart of a Children, to improve living conditions in UK-based children’s homes.

This led him to travel all over the country to interview dozens of children.

In 1992 his colleagues were informed of his convictions for child pornography, he minimizes them.

He brazenly denied to the NISW and NCB directors, swearing that “he never hurt a child”.

Nevertheless he has landed the project “Chart of a children” and his career is over.

But his double life is only beginning to emerge in the eyes of all.

A former director denies her inaction:

He presented so well, he was above all suspicion, he was giving himself a hard time to hide his privacy

and especially his homosexuality served as a screen that prevented to imagine other things.

He has deceived so many people in the world of social workers.

Another colleague says:

Righton had all the necessary qualities to be a good social worker with traumatized children: dedication, commitment, perseverance and unconditional affection.

But he used them all to satisfy his vices and to abuse children.


Despite three convictions for child pornography, the last of which in 1993, Fraser is still a child psychiatrist and has not been removed from the Cornwall doctors’ order.

He retired himself only in 1994 following the TV show.

Napier became director of studies at the British Council in Cairo, Egypt.

He wrote to a pedophile friend that it is “a city full of boys of which 98% are available”.

Following police investigations he was finally suspended from his post.

Righton himself moved with his lover and continued to maintain contact with many men who he raped as a child, at least one from Red Hills and one from the house on the Thames Island.

Righton died in 2007, at the age of 81, he was fined 900 pounds sterling (1,000 euros) for possession of child pornography.

Translated from English by Wanted Pedo.

Source: Malta Independent and BBC Inside Story

  • The Sanctuary for the Abused [A] has advice on how to prevent triggers.
  • National Association for People Abused in Childhood [B] has a freephone helpline and has links to local support groups.
  • One in Four [C]
  • Havoca [D].
  • Useful post on Triggers [E]  from SurvivorsJustice [F] blog.
  • Jim Hoppers pages on Mindfulness [G]  and Meditation [H] may be useful.
  • Hwaairfan blog An Indigenous Australian Approach to Healing Trauma  [J]
  • Survivors UK for victims and survivors of male rape or the sexual abuse of men [K]
  • Voicing CSA group [L] helps arrange survivors meetings in your area
  • A Prescription for me blog Various emotional support links [M]
  • Fresh Start Foundation Scottish not for profit group, helping child sexual abuse victims & survivors  [N]


Where possible many links are saved on or so if the link is dead please try those sites

[1] 2018 Feb 18 Wanted Pedo Les Réseaux Pédocriminels n’existent pas | Round 6 | Réseau OTO

[2] 2018 Feb 13 Ax de la Resistance Les réseaux pédocriminels n’existent pas | Réseau Righton

[3] 2018 Feb 18 Wanted Pedo Les réseaux pédocriminels n’existent pas | Round 32 | Réseau Righton

[4] 2014 Aug 17 Malta Independent Evidence of ‘organised abuse’ and ‘trade’ of young boys in Gozo resurfaces

Let justice be done though the heavens fall – Fiat justitia ruat cælum

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Steven George and Jason Packer – Framed by Corrupt Police and Judicial System

Steven George first came to my attention through his book which I blogged about Heartless and Heartless Too by Janella [7]

In that book published in 1998, many years before Savile died in 2012 and the issue of child sexual abuse became more widespread he named Jimmy Savile as a child abuser. He also told of his abuse by his MP adoptive father Bonner-Pink, and how Steven was illegally kept in institutions for 26 years.

He was one of the pioneering whistleblowers and to do that he had to type, print and bind the first versions himself. He was a beacon and example to others to break the silence and tell their story, whatever effort it took to do so.

That spirit and determination has been needed of late.

Due no doubt to his experiences, Steven campaigned against sex pest MP Mike Hancock. Portsmouth 3 – MP Hancocks Heinous Habits Part 1 [6] and Portsmouth 4 – Hancocks Heinous Habits Part 2 [4]

He was joined in this by his friend since 1992, and carer Jason Packer. Packer publicly released the Pasco Report into some of Hancocks predatory behaviour. It seemed to be this that triggered the authorities to frame Packer, with the Police and Hancock obviously in cahoots.

Framing child sexual abuse campaigners is a known and effective method of exerting control over child sexual abuse campaigners, see Child Sexual Abuse Campaigners and Whistleblowers targeted by state organisations [5] and England = North Korea. Jails Whistleblowers. No Trial. No Charge [3]  and “Security Services” running rogue – Deep State out of Control [2]

Packer also has Aspergers, a fact known to the authorities.

The miscarriages of justice are plain to see – the police, when arresting him, actually inserted a memory stick into his computer. Vital dates are completely wrong for Packer to have downloaded the images, the images are not even of children, the list goes on.

All this and more was ignored. The charges were railroaded through despite the facts and Jason Packer went to prison. As we have seen again and again, the corrupt and child abusing establishment protects its own.

Anyhow Jason and Steven George have survived, no doubt mentally battered and bruised, despite prison for Jason and the stigma of a false conviction and two trials, and the even more farcical prosecution of Steven for giving ONE image in Jasons defence to a journalist and the defence – which again was not a child. The false labelling of them both as having child abuse images is not an easy one to bear, as even some fellow victims of abuse, take a Crown conviction as truth.

The establishment however by its actions signals its corruptness and guilt.

Here is the story written by Steven, edited by me, which is why story varies from first person and other times Steven is referred to as Steven or Steven George. My fault!





When someone is on the sex offenders register, the general public think they are safer because of it. Juries believe the same in general also, and consider that their verdicts are fair, based on the facts. There is a big but here. What if the Jury were given entirely false information? If everything they were seeing a lie?

In the cases I am going to describe, that is exactly what happened

Case 1 – Jason Packer

Nigel Pascoe QC, authored a report “the Pascoe Report” of his findings surrounding the then MP Mike Hancock for Portsmouth South. This included his texts and conversations with a vulnerable female, Annie, who went to Mike Hancock for help.

On January 18th 2014, Jason Packer, having long campaigned against the seedy Hancock, shared a redacted copy of this Pascoe report through a file sharing site, hoping to get widespread sharing of the Report.

In the report, which Mr Pascoe did not want kept secret, it says that he considers the events to have happened, and suggests the complaint by “Annie”, was correct. Hancock was later forced to apologise.

On February 11th, 2014 Police raided the home of Mr Packer. They arrived at 6.56 a.m. they went up stairs. At approximately 6.58 a.m. Police turned the computer on, and inserted a USB stick. On a search and seizure, like this, to turn on and use the computer to be taken, is totally against accepted protocol.

The police involved were DC 3899 Hibberd, DS 2694 Mears,  PC 2195 Dunlop, PC 21582 Langford and  PC 20698 Lonergan.

It is DS Mears who is thought to have used the computer at this time. However, whichever police officer it was, they opened files and remarked on finding the Pascoe Report online prior to turning it off. They were seen doing this by Mr Packer himself.

Mike Hancock whilst being a Councillor, and as an MP, has used Police to intimidate others. (Mark Austin was taken to Court after arguing with Mike Hancock. Mark Austin was acquitted. He was then, at the time, and still is Councillor. Jez Baker also taken to court after arguing with Hancock also then a Councillor -he was sent to prison. Les Cummings charged twice by Police  over Hancock issues -convicted also, but given conditional discharge.)

We now know, on the same day, that Mr Packer was raided, Mike Hancock was asking Judges, in Court in London,  to refuse to allow the Pascoe Report to be used to help “Annie” in the civil case against Mike Hancock. Portsmouth City Council were involved in keeping it secret and redacted also.

On April 5th 2014 Mike Hancock phoned Mr Packer’s own home, that he shared with Steven George. On the phone Hancock described Packer’s arrest, and the type of files he was to be charged with, to Mr George. This was approximately 5 months before any charges were in place.

Mike Hancock also called Mr Packer, “POCKER OR PUCKER,” in the same manner Police did at the door earlier, on February 11th 2014!

When Mr Packer was in custody on February 11th 2014, he was given the opportunity to see solicitors. The Solicitors who were assigned to him, were Saulet and Ashworth. Much later Packer and George find these turn out to be solicitors representing Mike Hancock! They obviously had, therefore, a massive conflict of interest.

The system allows for solicitors to withdraw, and for the defendant to find another representative. It is difficult to think of an instance more appropriate to changing than this case in question. Saulet and Ashworth should not have represented Packer, but not only did they do so, but they turned up even on simple bail returns, when Mr Packer was bailed without charge, a service they are not normally paid for using the legal aid system.

In Packers first interview they were of no help at all, and later, when Mr Packer was charged in August 2014, they sat in silence, telling him he was going to prison, and that may be attacked there. This was directly before Packer’s filmed interview.

Their advice was “Just talk”!! Of course they wanted the Pascoe Report kept out of public view, at all costs for Mike Hancock, and had no interest in helping the man who put it online! This same interview was used in Court as part of Packer’s trial on August 24th, 2015. It appears it should not have been, as it may be an illegal interview.

Mr Hancock, defended by the compromised Saulet and Ashworth later,  was forced to apologise due to the revelations of the Pascoe Report, and he ended up stepping down as a Councillor.

In local elections in 2014, Mr George stood against Hancock and Mr Packer stood against Mike Hancock”s wife. It is thought that these actions angered Mike Hancock even more, especially when he was finally forced to stop being an MP.

Packer’s trial itself was a complete farce.

By this time, Mr Packer had already found out that Saulet and Ashworth were also Hancocks solicitors, so he got new Solicitors, Bindmans in London.

The Barrister assigned to him, a female, began by going to the prosecution, and trying to broker a deal , for a 5 year sentence. This despite Mr Packer never giving permission or instructions for her to do this, and when he intended to plead NOT guilty!  He had to change his Solicitors again, so he got Hodge Jones and Allen.

They got an image review done which looked at the calibre of the 18 charges. This is the first time that Packer became aware, that he was being charged with a legal Horror film, with adults described as underaged children!

He also was denied the right to see and discuss the files he was charged with. He did not see any of them, until his trial. So he was working blind. The new barrister, Philip Romans might not have been there at all, for all the good he actually did.

For the record, Mr Packer did not download ANY of the files he was charged with, more on that point in a moment.

First of all the horror film was shown to the Jury. Called “The Serbian Film”. It is rated NC-17, and is available from Amazon to buy in its full uncut version. It is like many other horror movies of today, such as the “SAW” franchise and the “Halloween” horror selections and many others.

The Serbian Film was described to the Jury as a Specialist Snuff Movie. No proof of that has ever been offered, from 2015 until 2017, nor could it be, in the light of what it actually is anyway!

It was accepted as a snuff movie even by Packers barrister, Phillip Romans. Romans did very little throughout the whole trial. Later Romans simply did not even bother to turn up for sentencing hearing not once but twice.

The prosecution ensured that the image review, which revealed the truth about the film, was never seen by the Jury, throughout the whole trial. Indeed the Jury saw not one piece of defence material throughout the entire trial.

The Judge, Recorder Frank Abbott, an expert in search and seizure procedures, simply allowed these total lies to remain before the Jury. The clip shown, even had “SCREENER COPY”, printed on the lower part of the clip, which means this same clip, had been sent to censors for certification!

Of the 18 charges, only three to four images were as described, all of the others were legal pornography, “Adults” yet falsely described to the Jury as children.

The law states a person must be 18 years or over to be legally on pornography sites, these females were fully developed, and on sites which declared they were of age. There was no evidence offered by the prosecution to establish any actual ages. Indeed a passport check on one file, known as “Cammies First Time”, had been done, proving all were 18 years or over. Even this file was presented to the jury as a child, with no evidence whatsoever.

During the trial, when Police expert, “John Harrison” gave his evidence, it was revealed that the Packer’s computer was not in operation before June 1st 2013. This made it impossible then for all the files Mr Packer was charged with, to be downloaded, through this specific Windows 7.6.1 computer Shareaza file sharing programme, beginning in 2010, and ending in 2012!

From the mouth of the police expert himself, the files could not have been downloaded by Mr Packer. During questioning by Mr Meredith, of the prosecution, it was obvious that Mr Packer could not have therefore done any of it. The trial continued nevertheless and the Jury found him guilty, on all but one count. This, a second horror film, a Zombie movie this time, as yet unknown, ominously still lies on file.

This document was given with other evidence showing that Mr Packer was innocent. Again, following the previous pattern, this was ignored.

At Packers trial, DC Gunner who assessed the images as being all children, was “off sick” and did not appear to give her evidence to the Jury. At his trial also, two Police Officers were sent to the Shoreham Air Crash, and they were not therefore able to be cross examined.

If one puts together all the legal errors, which we believe not be errors at all, but quite deliberate evasions, and false representation by Police and the CPS, one is left with the belief, that a gross, and deliberate miscarriage of justice has deliberately been perpetrated, against Mr Packer.

From the end of September, Mr Packer repeatedly asked for his transcript of the trial.

Judge Hetherington wrote a letter, in November 2015 saying that Packer could not have his transcript unless he paid for it himself, rather than anyone else paying for it for him. It was over £2k, he was on benefits. The judge then gave a series of rules, such as he must collect himself from the court, or pay for it and have it in prison. It took until 2017 until he finally received it, two years out of time for an appeal.

Jason Packer was sentenced to prison, on December 21st, 2015, by Judge Frank Abbott, who at the hearing once more described the legal horror movie being on the computer as a crime. Mr Packer was also placed on the Sex Offenders Register for ten years.  Mr Packer spent six months in prison and he was released on June 20th 2016.

Then immediately an attempt was made to return Mr Packer to prison.

Jason Packers Second Case

In September 2015, Mr Packer researched the files on the document handed to the court. He did so in full view of the police, on a monitored computer he had bought, in March 2014 to replace his old one taken in February 2014.

PSI Matthew Lawn a MAPPA Officer, (Multi-Agency Public Protection Arrangement) who is meant to help sex offenders in the Community, visited Mr Packer at home on the 26th September. He saw the research, and a copy of the legal DVD “The Serbian Film”, at a later point in October. After Packer’s conviction, it took two days to arrive from Amazon.

Matthew Lawn commented that the horror film was not a crime, and that the files identified on the document, before mentioned were adults and legal.

Matthew Lawn later however, appeared to change his mind. He waited until after Packer’s release from prison. He took  the computer, on November 18th 2015, that Mr Packer bought in March 2014. Lawn then arrested Mr Packer, and attempted to get him remanded, the next day, for images in the cache, created in 2015. The remanding was not successful.

In 2017, two years later, Mr Packer was on trial for three images from the created cache, and one image from the document, which was “Cammies First Time”, a known adult and legal film, once more described as a child, to the Jury!

During this trial, Matthew Lawn pretended he had not seen the computer until October 8th, 2015. He said it was the first time he had met Mr Packer, despite emails to Solicitors describing his comment on the legality of the files in question, on the document, and letters to CPS written at the end of September 2015. He described the computer as a new one, and lied about the earlier visits.

In this trial, Matthew Lawn described, yet again, the horror movie charges and all the other false charges to the Jury, in his first conviction. Mr Packer was limited to talking about this new case, due to legal aid rules for his Barrister, so he could actually be represented.

Once more the law worked entirely for the prosecution, who could bring up the first case to the Jury as if he were guilty. As a result Packer was found guilty.

After 7 hours the Jury found Packer guilty of three images from the cache he had neither seen nor clicked on. (Apparently now if the computer has it, it is a crime anyway, which seems to me to be ridiculous, as no one can be held accountable for everyone else”s films and comments. Only now one is!)  On sentencing Mr Packer got 18 months suspended for two years.

Third Miscarriage of Justice – Steven George

On a sentencing hearing for Packer,  a document was presented that detailed the people in the horror film, and four other files, were adults. Full details were given of their history, places on the web and other facts. The document was given to the Court, before November 2nd as well as to Mr Meredith, prosecution team on November 2nd.

Steven George gave a copy of that document to a journalist reporting Mr Packer’s case. This is the evidence that was used to charge Mr George with distribution of one image of a child. Lawn charged Mr George with one count of distribution of image of a child, on August 30th 2016.

Matthew Lawn PSI who arrested George, and charged him, was going to give evidence to the Jury in Georges case that the girl in the image was between 14 years and 17 years. (They also hid her age in Mr Packer’s case, having originally charged him with her as an under sixteen year old. This despite stating in his original charge information that she was found on a Seventeen site!)

In  May, 2017, Steven George was not allowed to bring in evidence to show that the one image, was likely to be an adult. All of the evidence about the files, and this one image, were bizarrely deemed inadmissable by QC Christopher Parker acting as Judge in his case.

Without representation, facing an impossible position, George felt forced to plead guilty. He felt unable to fight his case without fresh legal advice.

His McKenzie friend was not allowed. He did however get a conditional discharge, and it was agreed there was no sexual motivation, in handing the document, to the journalist, yet he was put on the sex register.

Afterwards an appeal was denied, but a Judicial Review found that Mr George, should not have been put on the sex offenders register and the age of the image was 17 years or more, was not even contested. This  point was conceded by the prosecution at Royal Courts of Justice, on February 16th 2018, Mr George will now attempt to sue for wrongly spending nine months on the register.

Being Found not guilty, but letting the conviction stand?!!!

My plea, procured under duress without representation, when all defence evidence was refused, remains considered as correct, I kid you not.

So despite being innocent of the charge of an under age image, and  I now am removed from the sex offenders register, after wrongly being on it for 9 months, but the conviction stands for a charge now proven to be wrong!!!!

What a mad world and how very unfair.

Further Thoughts

The Pascoe Report being put on line appears to have caused three convictions, of two people. Entirely false allegations, which appear to have been concocted to to silence a whistleblower.

Both Mr Packer, and Mr George, believe that the files used to prosecute Packer were actually placed on the computer by the Police using the inserted USB stick on February 11th 2014. The dates were then changed, of the upload from the USB stick, apparently simple to do.

One must note it is also thought the USB stick, is likely to be a training stick, used by Police for recruits to understand the difficulty of finding files which, are, or are not legal, and the manner in which they appear online.

One file in particular had almost every word, one might search for, when seeking illegal material in its title alone. It is hard to believe anyone would leave such an entitled file on their computer, unless they wished to get into trouble! Its title saying things like “Under age, pre teen, kiddie porn, barely legal, “on just one line, the titles were many, on this one file.

All the evidence we now have, supports the fact that the police used the computer for 9 minutes at the time of the raid on Mr Packer on February 11th 2014. This time is even in the transcript and there is an overwhelming case for Mr Packer and Mr George to finally be exonerated.

Despite declaring the image as over 17 in Mr Georges case, they still once more charged Mr Packer with her as an under sixteen! For another image they tried to state she was an under sixteen to the Jury, two years after she had been proven an adult! Luckily the Jury found him not guilty.

Mr. George has a document from May 9th 2017 saying “NO Order IS APPROPRIATE”, then they still put him on register, only to take him off nine months later saying I should not have been on it in the first place!!

Bent cops at the top and bent judiciary at the top, who set the example for lower down. Its increasingly hard for those good cops, judges, barristers and solicitors, but please keep on going!

For bent judiciary see also SGT Report Did Elite Pedophiles Fake Nerve Gas Attack In Salisbury?  [9]

Update 2018 Apr 3 Here is part of the reason – institutional corruption in the police re trials  2018 Apr 3 Mail Police are ‘trained to deliberately hide evidence they don’t want defence to see’ finds report exposing full extent of disclosure failures after collapse of a series of rape trials [10]

  • The Sanctuary for the Abused [A] has advice on how to prevent triggers.
  • National Association for People Abused in Childhood [B] has a freephone helpline and has links to local support groups.
  • One in Four [C]
  • Havoca [D].
  • Useful post on Triggers [E]  from SurvivorsJustice [F] blog.
  • Jim Hoppers pages on Mindfulness [G]  and Meditation [H] may be useful.
  • Hwaairfan blog An Indigenous Australian Approach to Healing Trauma  [J]
  • Survivors UK for victims and survivors of male rape or the sexual abuse of men [K]
  • Voicing CSA group [L] helps arrange survivors meetings in your area
  • A Prescription for me blog Various emotional support links [M]
  • Fresh Start Foundation Scottish not for profit group, helping child sexual abuse victims & survivors  [N]


[1] 2017 Dec 30 cathyfox blog Steven George and Jason Packer

[2] 2017 Aug 10 “Security Services” running rogue – Deep State out of Control

[3] 2017 Feb 25 cathy fox blog England = North Korea. Jails Whistleblowers. No Trial. No Charge

[4] 2015 Jul 17 cathy fox blog Portsmouth 4 – Hancocks Heinous Habits Part 2

[5] 2015 Jul 5 Cathy fox blog Child Sexual Abuse Campaigners and Whistleblowers targeted by state organisations

[6] 2015 Jul 5 Cathy fox blog Portsmouth 3 – MP Hancocks Heinous Habits Part 1

[7] 2015 Mar 4 cathy fox blog Heartless and Heartless Too by Janella aka Steven George

[8] 2016 Jun 16 Cathy Fox blog Understanding Grooming by Steven George

[9] 2018 Mar SGT Report Did Elite Pedophiles Fake Nerve Gas Attack In Salisbury?

[10] 2018 Apr 3 Mail Police are ‘trained to deliberately hide evidence they don’t want defence to see’ finds report exposing full extent of disclosure failures after collapse of a series of rape trials

Let justice be done though the heavens fall – Fiat justitia ruat cælum


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Survivor’s Reply to Archbishops’ Pastoral Letter

This is a reblog of a post from Stephens blog, the original can be found here Surviving Church Survivor’s Reply to Archbishops’ Pastoral Letter  [1] It was written by Janet Fife. It is more poignant because the survivor is not only a member of the church but also one of the first women to be ordained.

The letter shows that the heads of the church are out of touch, and amongst many other good points exposes the churches lack of provision for even the most basic trained counselling for survivors.

If the church will not even do that can they even be considered to be doing anything meaningful for survivors who often cannot afford this, whilst the church basks in huge riches? Can the Church of England even be considered compassionate when they continually ignore the needs of survivors of abuse that the church has caused, ignored and tried to cover up?

Perhaps the Church of England (and other religious organisations who continue to rape children) should be made to pay a true financial price to recompense for their actions, one that may bankrupt this hypocritical organisation. The more they are allowed to get away with a few thousand pounds for each survivor who manages to complete the marathon of complaints to the church and walking through the mud of the Crowns Justice system, then the Church will carry on abusing. It is merely a cost of the business model.

Unfortunately the legal system appears to compensate loss of future earnings more than the actual child sexual abuse. Whilst individually difficult to prove, it must be easier to do this for a whole group of survivors, who otherwise would have gone on to earn more. Using this to speak to the church in a language they truly respect – money, is perhaps the only way they will take this issue seriously, as they obviously do not take seriously the avoidable damage to innocent children’s souls.

Should the Church of England pay the ultimate price and even cease to exist, if it so clearly fails its own principles for existing? Should it be allowed to carry on in existence if it causes so much harm to innocent children by its misuse of  trust and power?

No doubt my words go further than the letter writer and the blogger – but food for thought.



Today a Pastoral Letter is being read in churches across the country. Here is a reply to the letter from one of many of those who have been affected by the recent hearings. It is presented here as a guest post and perhaps some of readers will be able to identify with the sentiments. The opinions expressed belong to the author

Dear Brothers in Christ,

I’m writing in response to your ‘Pastoral Letter’. And, since Archbishop Justin [Welby] has called for an end to clericalism and deference, I’m going to call you Justin and John [Sentamu]. I know you’ll be happy with that.

So, Justin and John, I thought you might want to know how I, as a survivor, feel about your letter. And I know you’ll pay careful attention, because you’ve said you want to listen to survivors.

But first, let me talk a bit about the IICSA hearings. In the last three weeks I’ve been on an eventful personal journey. The first week I was emotionally chewed up: the evidence recalled to me many of the awful experiences I’ve had over my nearly 40 years in the Church of England. The second week I began to realise that at last powerful people were being called to account and some of the rottenness was being exposed. Frankly, John and Justin, I enjoyed seeing those bishops wriggle under questioning from two women who were much younger than them. The tables were turned and it did me a power of good.

During the third week I felt empowered. By then I was getting things in perspective. You see, being a survivor of childhood sexual abuse, and also one of the first women to be ordained, has been really tough. So often the treatment I’ve had from the Church has replayed those old scripts. And often I’d felt bad because somehow I didn’t seem able to pick up the rules of the game, didn’t have the formula for being taken seriously by the hierarchy. What was wrong with me? Now I know it wasn’t me who was wrong, it was the dreadful system and so many of the people at the top. (Not all of them, thank God, but too often the good were outweighed by the bad.) Now I’m glad I never learned those rules. They were, and are, rotten rules to play by. As Justin said last week, we need to learn from what has happened and make massive changes. I was quite encouraged. I actually had some hope, Justin, that you meant it.

And now,, John and Justin, to your letter. Oh dear. I’m afraid you could hardly have got it more wrong. So let me give you some friendly advice. Let’s start with topping and tailing. If you’re going to address us all as ‘Sisters and Brothers in Christ’, don’t finish with ‘The Most Revd and Rt Hon’. Its just not brotherly. It looks like showing off. It certainly doesn’t look like the shame Justin said he felt. If you really wanted an end to deference and clericalism you’d have signed off ‘Justin and John’. We know who you are.

Next, if you want to send out something called a pastoral letter, make it pastoral. Asking for prayer for all those involved in the IICSA hearings and in safeguarding isn’t enough. You can’t just pass on to what good work is being done without saying what you are actually going to do for those affected by the hearings. What practical steps have you taken to help survivors, for instance? In case you can’t think of anything you could and should do now, here are some suggestions.
1) When someone writes to you personally with an allegation of abuse or harassment, as I did last November, answer them. Your chaplain or secretary can draft the letter, but sign it yourself. At least make sure they actually get a reply. I haven’t had one, and it’s 133 days now. Not that I’m counting.
2) Announce that you are setting aside funds for counselling for those who have made allegations of abuse. All I was offered, in a phone call from a member of the safeguarding team, was a meeting with a female priest. I’m a woman priest, I know dozens of woman priests. It takes a skilful and trained counsellor to help a survivor of abuse. Invest some money into putting things right.
3) We’ve all heard accounts of abuse taking place in church settings, as part of worship and prayer. You speak of all the services of Holy Week as if everything will go on as usual. If it does, you will rob us of that glimmer of hope we had when Justin seemed to struggle with tears about the abuse people have suffered in our church. So, announce that you are stepping back from your role in all the Holy Week observations and ceremonies. Tell us you will instead spend the week visiting survivors and listening to our stories. You could ask ordained survivors to take your place in some of those services. That would demonstrate your respect for them, your admiration of their courage and honesty. Give them some of the outward show of dignity you would usually enjoy.

Another point: if you’re going to start a pastoral letter with a biblical quotation, make it an appropriate one. The passage which came to my mind when I read your letter was another saying of Jesus:

So when you are offering your gift at the altar, if you remember that your brother or sister has something against you, leave your gift there before the altar and go; first be reconciled to your brother or sister, and then come and offer your gift. (Mt. 5:23-24)

We have just spent three weeks finding out how much is justly held against the leaders of our Church. The debt is huge, but you can at least make a start. John, you need to work on being reconciled with Matt Ineson before you next attend church. Justin, what about making amends to Gilo for those 17 unanswered letters? But only if you take Jesus seriously, of course.

Finally I’d like to say, in my most pastoral manner, that neither of you seems good at responding appropriately to people who’ve been on the receiving end of the bad stuff that happens in religious organisations. So here’s another suggestion. When you need to write a letter like the one we’ve just had, or to make a statement, run it past a survivor first. Most of us don’t want you to look uncaring and incompetent, we really don’t. We can help you to write sensitively, to respond appropriately, to offer assistance that will actually make a difference. Many of us have years of experience working with other survivors; researching; struggling with the theological and spiritual implications of being abused. Some of us can even contribute liturgical material you might find useful. We survivors offer a resource for the Church that you need badly. Don’t continue to despise it.

Well, as far as I’m concerned this has cleared the air nicely. I do hope you’ve found my suggestions helpful; there are plenty more I can think of but I reckon the is enough for now. Feel free to ask my advice any time. It’s funny what a difference it makes, being able to call you Justin and John. Almost as if I really were your equal in Christ.

Yours sincerely

Janet Fife

  • The Sanctuary for the Abused [A] has advice on how to prevent triggers.
  • National Association for People Abused in Childhood [B] has a freephone helpline and has links to local support groups.
  • One in Four [C]
  • Havoca [D].
  • Useful post on Triggers [E]  from SurvivorsJustice [F] blog.
  • Jim Hoppers pages on Mindfulness [G]  and Meditation [H] may be useful.
  • Hwaairfan blog An Indigenous Australian Approach to Healing Trauma  [J]
  • Survivors UK for victims and survivors of male rape or the sexual abuse of men [K]
  • Voicing CSA group [L] helps arrange survivors meetings in your area
  • A Prescription for me blog Various emotional support links [M]
  • Fresh Start Foundation Scottish not for profit group, helping child sexual abuse victims & survivors  [N]

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[1] 2018 Mar 25 Surviving Church Survivor’s Reply to Archbishops’ Pastoral Letter

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Child Abuser Morris Fraser, Factual Errors by NI Child Abuse Inquiry

This post contains 3 items from Niall Meehan, Faculty Head, Journalism & Media, Griffith College, Dublin. They show the Northern Ireland Inquiry into “historical abuse” was factually incorrect about Morris Fraser and show Niall Meehan’s attempts to correct the record. It appears the authorities are slow to do this.

1. The first, the text of which is reproduced in this post and on this pdf [1] is a letter from Niall Meehan, pointing out serious deficiencies and errors of fact in the Northern Ireland Abuse (NIA) inquiry when it considered Morris Fraser in his work at Lissue Hospital and also police failures to inform NI Hospitals Authority and RUC of their investigation of Morris Fraser.

2. 2017 Sept Niall Meehan Report published previously in Spinwatch ‘Northern Ireland abuse inquiry (HIAI) failed to investigate paedophile doctor, Morris Fraser, who managed Lissue children’s psychiatric hospital’ pdf [2]

3. Niall Meehan Report published previously in 2017 Nov Village Magazine  ‘Stormont should correct HIAI report to reflect police paedophile delinquency’  pdf  [3]  

The text of Niall Meehans letter is as follows:-

1. Letter /Email from

To: David Sterling. Executive Office, NIO, Belfast
Copy to: James Brokenshire MP, Secretary of State for Northern Ireland
From Dr Niall Meehan, Faculty Head, Journalism & Media, Griffith College, Dublin.
16 November 2017

The HIAI and Dr Morris Fraser (2 pages)

Dear David Sterling,

On 17 May 1972 at Bow Street Magistrates’ Court London, a child psychiatrist
employed by the NI Hospitals Authority, Dr Maurice Fraser, pleaded guilty to abusing
a 13-year-old Belfast boy in London in August 1971.

I attach two reports I authored on Dr Morris Fraser, in September and (just published)
November 2017.

They are entitled:
‘Stormont should correct HIAI report to reflect police paedophile delinquency’, Village
magazine, November 2017 pdf [3]
• ‘Northern Ireland abuse inquiry (HIAI) failed to investigate paedophile doctor, Morris Fraser, who managed Lissue children’s psychiatric hospital’, Spinwatch, September 2017 pdf [2]

(I draw your attention also to my first, March 2016, report on Dr Fraser:  2016 Mar 31 Niall Meehan, ‘Morris Fraser, child abuse, corruption and collusion in Britain and Northern Ireland’ [4] )

Both reports detail a serious deficiency in the findings, and also errors of fact, in the
Report of the Historical Institutional Abuse Inquiry (HIAI), as they concern Dr Fraser.
I wish to make two points on that subject, which are supported by evidence cited in the
attached reports. I draw your attention in particular to copies of archival documents
(cited here) in my September 2017 report on Dr Fraser.

1. Fraser’s work in Lissue Children’s Psychiatric Unit
The January 2017 HIAI Report, chapter 26, page 82, briefly considered and then
dismissed discussion of Fraser’s work, and of his official treatment. It found that,
… the way the medical authorities and the police dealt with Dr Fraser after his conviction
in London are not matters that fall within the Terms of Reference of this Inquiry and we
have not considered them.

The conclusion was based on a finding, that relied on the 45-year-old memory of Dr
Fraser’s 1971-73 superior, Dr William Nelson, that Fraser’s work in 1972-3, with
institutionalised children in Lissue hospital’s child psychiatric unit, was peripheral, at
best, to his main work with outpatient children in the RVH. Inquiry paragraph 87 in
chapter 26 asserted, ‘There is no evidence of Dr Fraser’s work at Lissue’.

The HIA Inquiry dealt only with the treatment of institutionalised children
As my latest reports point out, the Inquiry ignored (and made no reference to the
possession of) documentary evidence sent to the Inquiry by the General Medical
Council (GMC) in September 2016.

A document, one of two July 1973 letters from
Fraser’s immediate superior, the same Dr William Nelson, for GMC consideration,
demonstrated that Fraser’s main work was in Lissue Hospital’s inpatient child
psychiatric unit, for at least a year after his May 1972 child abuse conviction.

The letter, dated 6 July 1973, stated also that Dr Fraser was promoted to medical manager
of the children’s psychiatric unit within that time period. Finally, Dr Nelson’s letter noted that Fraser interacted with social care workers in allocating vulnerable children to various institutions.

This latter point is in line with an allegation from Kincora Boys’ Home victim Richard Kerr, that the Inquiry attempted to undermine (though Kerr refused to interact with the Inquiry). A second letter from Dr Nelson, dated 11 July 1973, stated a willingness to accept Dr Fraser back working in the child psychiatric unit.

Therefore, the Inquiry decision to ignore investigation of Morris Fraser’s behaviour
and official treatment was contradicted by evidence in its possession, which the Inquiry
decided, irrationally, to ignore. The ignored evidence suggested that Investigation of
Fraser, a paedophile who interacted with vulnerable institutionalised children, was
within the HIA Inquiry’s terms of reference.
That concludes the first point.

2. Police failure to inform NI Hospitals Authority and RUC frustration of
GMC investigation of Morris Fraser

The second issue I bring to your attention concerns how Fraser came to be working
with children, though he was a convicted child abuser. That is because the London
Metropolitan Police plus the Royal Ulster Constabulary (and/or the NI Police
Authority) refused, contrary to explicitly stated official regulations (cited in the
attached November 2017 Village article [3]), to inform the NI Hospitals Authority of Dr
Fraser’s unreported (by the media) May 1971 conviction.

Had the HIA Inquiry found, correctly, that Fraser’s behaviour and treatment was
within its terms of reference, it would have been bound to investigate why the RUC
(and/or the NI Police Authority) failed in its duty to inform a hospital authority that an
internationally known child psychiatrist it employed was also a child abuser. The
police authority admitted an obligation to inform, through duplicating Metropolitan
Police notification to the GMC.

The HIAI would have been obliged also to consider other GMC evidence in its
possession, indicating that the RUC, in particular, frustrated, and also thereby delayed,
the GMC’s investigation of Fraser. The HIAI would have been bound to consider RUC
culpability in the subsequent abuse of children, by a career paedophile whose object
was to scan an available child population in order to select those he might abuse.
The HIAI failed in its duty to investigate a proven paedophile who worked with
vulnerable institutionalised Northern Ireland children.

For that reason I ask you to refer back to the Inquiry those findings and errors of fact as
they concern Dr Morris Fraser, that are clearly contrary to evidence available to the
Inquiry. I ask you also to bring these observations to the attention of responsible
When may I expect notification of your decision(s) in relation to this matter and
considered reply?

Yours sincerely,
Dr. Niall Meehan

                                                                      Morris Fraser


Addition 25 march – here is Village with many articles on child sexual abuse  [6] 2018 Mar Village rugby (abuse) Various Rugby abuse – John McClean Leinster Haughey Imrie Miami Showband Nairac MI5_6 RDE Corbyn (s) – will try and update titles soon

  • The Sanctuary for the Abused [A] has advice on how to prevent triggers.
  • National Association for People Abused in Childhood [B] has a freephone helpline and has links to local support groups.
  • One in Four [C]
  • Havoca [D].
  • Useful post on Triggers [E]  from SurvivorsJustice [F] blog.
  • Jim Hoppers pages on Mindfulness [G]  and Meditation [H] may be useful.
  • Hwaairfan blog An Indigenous Australian Approach to Healing Trauma  [J]
  • Survivors UK for victims and survivors of male rape or the sexual abuse of men [K]
  • Voicing CSA group [L] helps arrange survivors meetings in your area
  • A Prescription for me blog Various emotional support links [M]
  • Fresh Start Foundation Scottish not for profit group, helping child sexual abuse victims & survivors  [N]


[1] 2017 Nov 16 Letter from Niall Meehan to David Sterling Northern Ireland Office

[2] 2017 Sept Niall Meehan Report published previously in Spinwatch ‘Northern Ireland abuse inquiry (HIAI) failed to investigate paedophile doctor, Morris Fraser, who managed Lissue children’s psychiatric hospital’ ( FRASER report Part II Meehan Niall HIAI (7Sep17) (plus appendices) SMALL)

[3] 2017 Nov Niall Meehan Report published previously in Village
Magazine  ‘Stormont should correct HIAI report to reflect police paedophile delinquency’

[4] 2016 Mar 31 Niall Meehan, ‘Morris Fraser, child abuse, corruption and collusion in Britain and Northern Ireland’, via Spinwatch

[5] For Twitter – Child Abuser Morris Fraser, Factual Errors by NI Child Abuse Inquiry #MorrisFraser #csa #NIAI #NiallMeehan #LissueHospital #MetPolice #RUC

[6] 2018 March Village Various – Rugby (abuse) Haughey Imrie Miami Showband Nairac MI5_6 RDE Corbyn (s) – will try and update titles soon

Let justice be done though the heavens fall – Fiat justitia ruat cælum

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